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  1. It doesn't really matter to me. Academically though, it would seem Gethsemane would be the far greater challenge. As important and horrific as the cross was I don't think the suffering sets him apart as does the garden. No one has ever nor is capable of experiencing the pain suffered in Gethsemane. The cross' agony is pedestrian in comparison and in light of the many other men & women who have suffered as horrible - if not more so - a mortal death in this temporality.
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    Giving Machines

    Come on, HJW. The Church in this instance didn't take away any option you didn't already consent to having taken away. You're moving the goalposts to buttress your argument. If there were not a disclaimer on the machine then your argument would have cause. That is, unless you then want to argue about the placement of the disclaimer and whether it should be in neon lights. Good grief...
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    Evolution

    Agreed for the most part though we should not conflate those things that are "seemingly unclear" as necessarily being "wrong".
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    Evolution

    I didn't suggest it were doctrine or I wouldn't have said "stretch". What do you think of ideas such as mine that speculate on possibilities although there may have been nothing authoritatively said about them yet? Because nothing has thus far been said does that in your mind preclude the possibility of it being true? Is your position that all must be revealed now? I do agree, however, that past pronouncements could have been much clearer in both detail and whether s/he were speaking of revealed doctrine. On this issue it doesn't bother me so much though. It's also true that Joseph could have "gotten ahead" of himself when he spoke of these things.
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    Evolution

    How much of a stretch is it to believe the earth underwent a spiritual transformation after eons of development - a transformation that represented the final preparation for receiving spiritual mankind after eons of his own development? Much as Calm has suggested the beginning of "covenant man[kind]" (the story of Adam & Eve) why couldn't we view a covenant earth in this way? Don't we already believe the earth has a spiritual essence about it?
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    Member family escapes fire in California

    My wife and I had put together "dream boards" several years ago. One of the pictures on mine was of a house in the mountains surrounded by pine trees. A couple years later I found myself interviewing for a clinical supervisory position with Butte Co. Mental Health down in Chico. After the interview I had occasion to travel up the hill to see what Paradise looked like. Once there, I immediately called my wife to tell her I had found the community where we should live as it was a carbon copy of my dream board picture. Long story short, that job opportunity never worked out and I never got that home in Paradise. Thank God for unanswered prayers. God bless all who are caught up in this tragedy. : (
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    Modesty issues...again

    I'm probably hooked for life here to be mostly a lookie - lou - I could never leave. You happened to step into a thread that has been acrimonious from the get-go and particularly from one camp. My first post a few days ago was answered in that sarcastic, mean-spirited way which turned me off considerably. What that camp does not understand is that they are eating their own on this thread as we try to discuss the issue of modesty and they don't seem to even see it... Bernard & pogi have been officers and a gentlemen throughout - it is unfortunate that BG must now take long cold shower from this forum. Our great loss... : (
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    Modesty issues...again

    That's fine. If you can't point me to your post that answers this or simply type out what would probably require some 53 seconds of your time then I'm not interested in combing through the 24 pages finding it. It's unfortunate you were somehow able to find what must have taken a similar amount of time taking a snarky pot shot at my honest question but then again, your priorities are your priorities. No thanks for your contribution to a productive exchange. ; ( Anyone else?
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    Modesty issues...again

    Slow down. Can you answer my question? And I didn't know it was a ladies vs. gentlemem thing? : (
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    Modesty issues...again

    I've been following this thread loosely over the last several days. Has anyone commented on whether modesty in dress is something to be enforced at all? The prevailing consensus seems there should be no enforcement.
  11. So you think a person has to be a TBM to appreciate or even feel the offense? What about offense at something you once held sacred? It should all be erased away? : (
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    Dan Reynolds - Prophet

    Again, if there are millions who would fit the definition of "prophet" (according to the definition you proffered) then what's the point of making a public claim about Reynold's being one? My Christian neighbor also fits the definition. And so what? I'm sure you're probably right - I would be one of them. There are many instances of those in leadership positions that I believe have carried more inspiring messages than Reynolds. There are also some on this site who would say negative things about the church leaders and their lack of any ability to prophesy. Did you notice the OP? What say you? And how is Reynolds' teachings "unique, new, and [able to] foretell the future? By the way, I love the phrase "dollars to donuts" and use it almost on a daily basis. I don't think I've ever stumbled upon another who also uses it! Regardless of where this exchange may lead, you now have my undying devotion. ; )
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    Dan Reynolds - Prophet

    If it's anyone who has a "testimony of Jesus Christ by the Holy Ghost" then it's interesting Reynolds is given the title considering there must be millions who are also deserving of said title, that is, unless the poster intends to convey something else? ; ) Who made the claim the church leaders words are better? I believe the comment was an opinion that most Mormons would disagree with HFT's assessment. Did someone judge Reynolds' message? Or are you referring to the Opie's claim that prophesy seems "completely absent" from church leadership? Hmmmm...
  14. But unwarranted accusations (and I suspect there are many) almost without exception favor the accuser. Putting my son through this eventuality would unnecessarily laden him with additional distress - distress that this 17 yro does not need right now.
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    So Now For Something *Totally* Unexpected...

    Wow. That is very cool. : )
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