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  1. Baptism ceasing? NT Scholars

    I was having a discussion with one of my students about baptism, he said baptism is a work and is not apart of the gospel and can not save you. Then pointed out 1 Corinthians 1:10-17 mostly focusing of verse 17. Saying “see if baptism was important why did Paul say he was not sent to baptize? My response: For Christ sent me not to baptize,.... Some think the apostle refers to his particular mission from Christ, (Acts 26:16) in which no mention is made of his administering the ordinance of baptism; but no doubt he had the same mission as the rest of the apostles had, which was to baptize as well as to preach(Matt28:18-20). Also if the misunderstanding of Paul’s saying he was not sent to baptize at all was true then that would make him a liar because by his own words he baptized a whole house hold (1 Corinthians 1:16). The teaching of this chapter could be seen as Paul did not come to teach one aspect of the gospel, but the whole gospel and doctrines of Christ (Faith, repentance, baptism, gift of the Holy Spirit.) The Same could be said if the people where debating on the words of wisdom, with Paul saying “I came not to teach the words of wisdom but the gospel of Jesus Christ.” Then we would be having a different argument. 1 Corinthians 3:4-8 shows that all the church leaders work as a unified team in bringing the power of salvation to the children of God. The same understanding can be found in Hebrews 6:1-3 where Paul teaches that the foundations of salvation are set and we need to learn the ways of Christ more in-depth or perfectly. 1 Corinthians 1:10-17 10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. 11 For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you. 12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. 13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul? 14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius; 15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name. 16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other. 17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. 1 Corinthians 3:4-8 4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal? 5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? 6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. 7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase. 8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.
  2. Outward privileges

    1820 dictionary OUT'WARD, a. [L. versus.] 1. External; exterior; forming the superficial part; as the outward coat of an onion; an outward garment. 2. External; visible; opposed to inward; as outward hate. 3. Extrinsic; adventitious. And outward honor for an inward toil. 4. Foreign; not intestine; as an outward war. [Not now used. We now say, external or foreign war.] 5. Tending to the exterior part. The fire will force its outward way. 6. In Scripture, civil; public; as opposed to religious. 1 Chr 24. 7. In theology, carnal; fleshly; corporeal; not spiritual; as the outward man. OUT'WARD, n. External form.
  3. What keeps you from doing service?

    I love service, my family and I do a lot of it. the only times we don’t is because we need to take a break and take care of our own family task. then we serve again.
  4. 2018 curriculum

  5. 2018 curriculum

    I am not sure but I think the come follow me-Melchizedek/relief society, if ping to have different topics then the youth Sunday school. also the manual might be only in the ensign but it might also have it own section in the lds gospel library. i like the 2nd and 3rd Sunday change because for me teaching from a conference talk is easier to teach from as well as this might get people to pay attention during GC.😳. i like that they kept adult Sunday school the same, I have been seeing new add on resources though, but I always use my own questions with the lesson to get the group dialogue up.
  6. 2018 curriculum

    What are your thoughts on the 2018 curriculum for priesthood and relief society, https://www.lds.org/bc/content/ldsorg/manual/2018/instructions/14888_000_InstrCur2018.pdf?lang=eng
  7. No Death Before the Fall?

  8. No Death Before the Fall?

    Dinosaurs as were alive with humans

    I went to one when I was younger, I loved earning all the scripture ribbons for memorizing all the scriptures, and playing bible trivia, and just having a bunch of other kids to play with.
  10. Budget meetings in Church

    I did as well, but the extra money was never spent to just spend it. It was used on things like new tents to replace the tents that got ripped during the year, and other things like that. also it would not have been fun with the stake president at the time if you over spent 👺
  11. Office of teacher

    I found this in my 1828 dictionary TE'ACHER, n. One who teaches or instructs. 1. An instructor; a preceptor; a tutor; one whose business or occupation is to instruct others. 2. One who instructs others in religion; a preacher; a minister of the gospel. The teachers in all the churches assembled themselves. 3. One who preaches without regular ordination. 2 and 3, seems like a lesser preacher, also without regular ordination seem interesting because a teacher can't baptize or lay on hands
  12. Office of teacher

    Why is the office of teacher named teacher, what is the history
  13. Budget meetings in Church

    When I attended the bishopric meeting at the beginning of the year we would give each group there budget and they would plan on how it was spent then I would go over it to make sure it was not wasteful then at the six month mark we would meet to see how things were going and in October we had our end of the year budget meeting to make sure they money was spent (no surpluses ) so we could get the same budget next year. Also every year we did great.
  14. So I met with a general authority today and I noticed that his scriptures were not the size iam used to seeing they were thinner. So i asked about them he said they are the general authority edition of the scriptures. I then asked like the temple edition that sit on the altar. He said yes similar, but not quite. i did not want to keep prying so I left the subject. but I just wonder what are in them or taken out. does anyone know. or next time I'll just pry more.