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  1. To be honest I think a lot of the new changes are misunderstood. like home teaching, we still have home teaching by a new name, but people think it’s no more. When you read the handbooks it still the same 123 but now they added 123456789, so were not put into a little box. the ward mission leader can be a member of the elders presidency, but I only see this happening if the ward is very small. its a numbers game. ward mission leader- 100 percent focus missionary work. counselor in elders quorum- maybe 30 percent focus from other tasks or may even take a back seat if the person is not missionary minded.
  2. This church is apart of the movie American gospel. the movie says it’s a prosperity gospel. also there healings are faked. one example is leg stretching.
  3. Good question. I side with scripture. in another note. adam and eve where not created in the garden, they were placed there after.
  4. Years ago My buddy was called as the new stake president, and we were talking and people kept saying to him congratulations. i then said to him very loudly “why are they congratulating you, because you did not earn your calling.” he smiled at me and said “ that is why I like you, you always keep me humble.” a few months later he got his revenge. Bishop!!
  5. Of all the callings I have done. two are my favorite. Gospel Doctrine teacher. Ward missionary.
  6. I would agree but I would also disagree. i don’t want a bishop who does not want to do the job because then you get a lazy bishop. but also this scripture does not just mean bishop, it means elder as well even deacon which means you don’t want lazy priesthood holders.
  7. Also 1 Timothy 3 1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. 2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; 4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; 5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) 6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. 7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. Vs 2. One wife - must be married and loyal to her. I.e one wife at a time. vs 4. Children - meaning two or more.😉 vs 7. Are without- must be a respected in the community. These are just some of the ways I have heard my IBC buddy interpret these verses.
  8. That is hog wash. I know bishops that have been divorced.
  9. I have shared this before but I found out the new apostolic church also does baptism for the dead.
  10. Old news. The pope said the Lord’s Prayer needs reworking. After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. 11 Give us this day our daily bread. 12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. 13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. To bad Joseph smith said it first. Jst 9Therefore after this manner shall ye pray, saying, 10Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 11Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth, as it is done in heaven. 12Give us this day, our daily bread. 13And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. 14And suffer us not to be led into temptation, but deliver us from evil. 15For thine is the kingdom and the power, and the glory, forever and ever. Amen. https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/08/lead-us-not-into-mistranslation-pope-wants-lords-prayer-changed
  11. Salvation for the Dead According to 1 Peter 3: 18–20, those who died in the flood received special love and care from Jesus Christ: after His sacrificial death, He proclaimed the gospel to them in the realm of the dead. The fact that the dead need the proclamation of the gospel in order to “live in the spirit” is also stated in 1 Peter 4: 6: “For this reason the gospel was preached also to those who are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.” Jesus Christ is Lord over the dead and the living. His gospel is equally valid for all. It is the desire of God that all men be saved (1 Timothy 2: 4–6; John 3: 16). This means that God’s will to save is given to all who believe. Salvation is offered through the proclamation of the word, the forgiveness of sins, and baptism and the Holy Ghost. All of these are likewise intended for the dead. For them as for the living, belief in Jesus Christ is indispensable for attaining salvation. Redemption occurs solely through Jesus Christ. Those holding the priesthood fulfill the commission of Jesus Christ by submitting the ordinances of salvation upon both the living and the dead. They act in Christ’s stead and in His name. Just as Jesus Christ brought His sacrifice on earth, salvation is also imparted through the Priesthood on earth. The dispensation of Baptism with water and the Holy Ghost to the departed is effected when the visible act associated with each is performed upon a living person in the temple Here the salvific effect is not for the benefit of the living, but rather exclusively for the departed. Departed souls now have experienced the rebirth of water and the Spirit are of equal standing with the dead in Christ (1 Thessalonians 4: 16).
  12. She told him, to tell people to stop.
  13. I asked the same question, and the SS President sent me the emails and they were very good. one lady talked about how she likes the jst version of Matthew 25:12 in how they did not know Jesus. Another email talked about Luke 18. in how many times the Pharisee used “I” 5 times in his prayer. Nothing crazy, just useful information.
  14. How do some of you feel about CBD, is it breaking the words of wisdom?
  15. When I taught SS I loved it when I got emails from members of the ward. Some times they were questions, and sometimes they were good insightful answers. and others not so insightful. I would use them in my preparations.
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