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Vance

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  1. There is no reason to think there might be hermaphrodite Gods. So I am not sure why you would think I might be trying to say that. Welcome aboard.
  2. So Jesus spends the evening with two sisters and the Pharisees and the lawyers don't go cuckoo with all kinds of accusations of sin and misdeeds? Must have been some kind of legitimate relationship there. Again, just sayin.
  3. To me the word "God" is like the words sheep, deer, elk, quail, moose etc. It is both singular and plural. So, it would be correct to say, "There are male Gods and female Gods". If we include the previous verse it clears it up even more. Gen 1:26 ¶ And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. It would also be correct if it said. Vance 1:26 ¶ And the Gods said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So the Gods created man in their own image, in the image of the Gods created they them; male and female created they them. Or in other words, Abr 4:26 And the Gods took counsel among themselves and said: Let us go down and form man in our image, after our likeness; and we will give them dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So the Gods went down to organize man in their own image, in the image of the Gods to form they him, male and female to form they them. Again, just sayin.
  4. Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. I think it is clear that the image of God is both male and female. Just sayin.
  5. Regarding the Sea of Galilee and the Dead Sea . . . . Currently both are below sea level. The Sea of Galilee is about 700 feet below sea level and the Dead Sea is more than 1300 feet below sea level. Currently, for water to run from the Dead Sea to the ocean the water level would have to rise more than 1500 ft. and then it would flow over Afula and past Haifa into the Med. That would cause the two bodies of water to merge into one.
  6. I liked this one, https://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Paul-Richard-Lloyd-Anderson/dp/1590387295
  7. I notice that you didn't either. Is it because you can't? You could start by showing where in the Bible it says that God is "immaterial".
  8. Let's just call it what it really is, "immaterial material". The interesting thing to me is that when the term "immaterial" was coined, it referred to things like, spirit, breath, and wind (from the Greek word "pneuma"). Let us get out of the dark age science and just admit that "immaterial" doesn't mean what people think it means.
  9. I noticed that Mouw made no Biblical defense of the "orthodox" position, nor did he provide a Biblical based justification for rejection of the "LDS" position. I am thinking it is because he could do neither.
  10. In addition to that verse there is this one. Heb 5:4 And no man taketh this honour unto himself, but he that is called of God, as was Aaron. Is it ok to call someone you usurps the authority of God a blasphemer?
  11. The later portions of this debate were posted in another thread. JW does misrepresent the beliefs of others (ok, he lies about them). He claims to "know" LDS doctrine and history, yet he doesn't act like it. Also, either he is not really familiar with Hebrew OR he is willing to let his debating partner misrepresent it. Letting a false information stand without correction is to perpetrate a deception. I think the "kid" did well, but he let a few false premises get introduced without question.
  12. Only some of the assumptions are tied to empirical measurements. Others are independent of empirical measurements. The end results are controlled by the assumptions. We can speculate about what is not there all we want. But with the information currently available to us, we can never know the length of the scroll with any degree of accuracy. What real difference would it make if the scroll was 5 ft. or 50 ft. in length?
  13. You (and others) made a misleading claim. You have no support for that claim, neither do they. That is why I am stuck on your unsupportable claim. JS used the word "translate", fine. The "book of breathings" part is just you critics misrepresenting what is known. Your speculations are not facts. Your opinions are not facts. You can't stick with the facts because you would loose your narrative. That is a statement of opinion, nothing more. That is his opinion. That is something you can't know. Ergo, still just your opinion. I think you meant align not alien. Still, just your opinion. All, signifying nothing.
  14. EXACTLY!!!! Nobody really knows. By the way, you are included in that "nobody".
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