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  1. So a consolidation of church membership and resources...a sifting of the wheat if you will...everyone hates Israel...Trump plays the role of the fourth horseman...death, famine, pestilence... Call to Zion in the near future?! But seriously, are you suggesting you're seeing something that would indicate we're getting...there?
  2. Well, with the advent of globalism and the numerous proxy wars waged between East and West during the Cold War, we were never destined to have a small military post WWII. Still, I was referring to the "arming of teenagers and terrorists" in my initial response. The US is notorious for arming "freedom fighters" and other groups that serve American interests at the time--only to have them bite the hand that feeds not long after. Many of the weapons used in Syria for example, are only there because we put them there. Closer to home, we have examples in the form of the ATF's "brilliantly" executed Operation Fast and Furious. I just get leery when it is suggested the Federal Government should be in charge of responsible gun distribution...
  3. Watching the news this evening...so far the general consensus is that IF Trump is telling the truth about Russia, this may be the best possible outcome for him ironically--we'll see
  4. The firearm industry is arming teenagers and terrorists...? Try again. The largest arms dealer in the world is the US Government. You want less guns in the world, focus more effort on regulating that first.
  5. Says my neighbor is a member of the group, wonder why her friend was knocking doors then? I distinctly remember a "church" being mentioned
  6. Ah! Good work!! The Facebook page is indeed my neighbor. From the description: "While there is almost nothing written of our Heavenly Mother in the traditional Christian theology, Mormon theology lays specific claim to Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother, as role models and guides for life on this earth, and after death. Mormon feminists, both female and male, often talk of their deep yearning for more scriptures, more information, more light and knowledge about our Heavenly Mother, and how we can follow Her example." ...hmmm, an offshoot of Mormon feminists...kind of boring
  7. It's definitely possible that all it amounts to was 5 people doing a bible study in their living room and thinking that this was a good idea. She didn't have any pamphlets when I asked for some. Looks like they knocked the whole apartment complex though...
  8. About 30 minutes ago, I had a knock on my door from a young lady, a self described missionary for the "Church of the Heavenly Mother". She said she was a friend of my neighbor, who with her husband, had left the LDS church some months before. Anyways, the missionary said they were part of a group trying to start a church in Provo based on the concept of our Heavenly Mother, in whose image, she said, we are created in. I politely declined, and thinking about it, I sort of wish I had asked a few questions. But it did sound as if the idea of a Heavenly Mother was preeminent in their theology--surpassing God the Father even. Has anyone ever heard of an actual church being built around this? I know the concept is found in LDS theology, and so I'm wondering if this is some kind of offshoot involving disaffected former LDS? Or is this just something arising from third wave feminism? I'm just curious, there are a number of new churches around Provo, but one centered around a Heavenly Mother is definitely a radical departure from the norm.
  9. I think people who voted for Trump will find he won't fix their problems. Just like the people who voted Obama eight years ago. I just shake my head when Trump promises to save manual labor jobs, especially coal mining. The only thing that's going to save blue collared work is retraining and/or unique skill sets. It takes initiative and a little bit of work that these guys feel they aren't able to do or are too old to do. And so I think they liked the messaging of Trump as you've noted. I went back to school to become an electronics technician, and probably half of my class was 40+ years old. So some guys are beginning to understand they can't stay where they are. You have to be able to market yourself. Hopefully it's a trend that trickles down to the younger people. It's a pretty brutal economic world out there.
  10. http://www.dailywire.com/news/16444/shock-pornography-ruining-mens-sex-lives-amanda-prestigiacomo Here's an indirect link to the study via commentary. Sorry for the confusion!
  11. I was reading through the headlines this morning, and saw this study from Newsweek, and I thought of this thread. Basically says that porn is ruining the sex lives of white, heterosexual men who are married. Not really sure if those with sexual dysfunction prefer or gravitate towards porn, or if porn makes one sexually dysfunctional. Either way I think its a crutch and an escape for people who can't deal with the stress of everyday life--no different from alcohol or anything else that serves as a distraction. There was a guy that my wife knew who killed himself a few weeks ago. He obviously had some problems, but I do know what triggered his downward spiral was his confession to his sometime girlfriend of his porn use. He was going to ask her to marry him and thought he should tell her. She broke up with him. I can't help but think he was having some serious shame and feelings of worthlessness. I'm not really sure what the answer is, we keep hearing the dishonesty is the biggest issue with porn in relationships, but if honesty is going to get you that...I dunno. She is naive and foolish if she thinks there isn't a guy who is "untouched" by pornography. Anyways, I think the practical reasons for avoiding pornography are pretty clear, but there is a shame culture within the church that needs to change regarding it. EDIT: I can't link to the story for some reason, its from Newsweek though!!
  12. But BOTH sides of the political divide are doing things that erode democracy. Which is why I think the problem isn't Trump, but the system that gave us the choice between Clinton and Trump.
  13. Oh, we are definitely getting what we deserve. Not even us millennials' fault, but a bunch of miserable older people who were looking for someone to blame for their own shortcomings in life. Trump is the result of anger, and there's just too much of it in the country at the moment. Just to clarify, I spent the primary season glued to my laptop for hours a day, researching, reading commentary, and analyzing polls. I was infuriated that Trump won the nomination. I also noticed I was making myself miserable. At some point, we need to accept that Trump is in and is going to stay in until 2020. Disagree, vote, and write your representatives. But the anger I'm seeing on the TV though--the protests, the town halls, the incivility in congress--that scares me more than anything Trump is doing.
  14. I'm all for respectful dialogue of the issues and concerns--but the argument on this thread has become, "my guy lies less than your guy". And at that point, it really doesn't matter--its just a silly argument that doesn't persuade anyone, and gets people unnecessarily worked up. Trump shouldn't be your concern--its the anger I see at his election. The same anger that came from the opposite side of the political spectrum when Obama was elected. People are getting angry because they're being told they should be angry. Some of you guys are talking like this is the end of democracy and the coming of the apocalypse. I quit watching the news, but I see it at work during break, and I saw on CNN the other day reporting that Trump ate two scoops of ice cream with his meal when everyone else in the room got just one scoop. Something about inequality in his administration. Its not just silly, its also fanning the negativity we really don't need any more help in finding. A quote from my favorite historian probably says what I'm trying to in a better way: “Disaster is rarely as pervasive as it seems from recorded accounts. The fact of being on the record makes it appear continuous and ubiquitous whereas it is more likely to have been sporadic both in time and place. Besides, persistence of the normal is usually greater than the effect of the disturbance, as we know from our own times. After absorbing the news of today, one expects to face a world consisting entirely of strikes, crimes, power failures, broken water mains, stalled trains, school shutdowns, muggers, drug addicts, neo-Nazis, and rapists. The fact is that one can come home in the evening--on a lucky day--without having encountered more than one or two of these phenomena. This has led me to formulate Tuchman's Law, as follows: "The fact of being reported multiplies the apparent extent of any deplorable development by five- to tenfold" (or any figure the reader would care to supply).” ― Barbara W. Tuchman, A Distant Mirror: The Calamitous 14th Century