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  1. ? There’s not a scratch on him...
  2. My little brother, who is probably 10 times the better man than I, with two kids and a wife, was cutting wood yesteday. He was a good 2 miles from the truck, and then a good 30 miles from the nearest hospital. No cell signal. The chainsaw kicked back on him into his leg. Google “chainsaw leg injuries” to see how catastrophic they are. He said he could feel the weight on his leg as the chain was running, and he just knew he was in huge trouble—there would be a good chance he’d bleed out if the right artery was cut. This is the picture he texted me last night: I’ve had chainsaws kick back on me, and I was only saved because I was wearing chaps. This isn’t possible. Call it extremely lucky, but it’s more than that for me and my family.
  3. That story obviously isn’t true. God only loves the Mormons, everyone else’s prayers fall on deaf ears.
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    On Zion Distant, and Babylon Close

    To suggest that Republicans oppose regulation because they hate the poor, ie, African Americans and Hispanics? Yeah, I would say it fails to meet respectful discourse on an already touchy subject. I didn’t make that unnecessary insinuation distracting from the main point. The article did. It doesn’t help the writer make his point, and it immediately turns people off to listening. The problem is, and I speak only for myself, is when you say the EPA is going to ensure a higher quality of life for everyone, and all I can think of is this: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/gold-king-mine-spill-colorado-rivers-epa-claims/ And I could post links all day over the rampant idiocy of EPA policy infringing on people’s property rights, incompetence, and straight up acts of extortion. I agree we need regulations, because NO ONE wants dirty air or water. But if you’re extolling the virtues of government regulation, you need to address the issues that make people adverse to government in the first place. Further, you’re worried about fossil fuels. I agree it’s due for a change...to what though? To this? https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/europes-soaring-energy-prices-2013-11 Talk about gouging the poor...give me a viable and economic alternative to coal and gas, and I’ll get behind it. At the moment, renewable energy at the macro level is impractical as a majority contributor, and at the micro level unaffordable. Finally, you are communicating via a computer or a smart phone yes? Just about everything you use that involves electronics involves semi conductors. You have any idea what goes into making those? Off the top of my head there’s NF3 (Nitrogen triflouride) which has the greenhouse potency almost 17,000 times that of CO2. You know how we abate it? We don’t, it’s released straight to atmosphere. You know how many fabrication plants there are in the world? A lot: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_semiconductor_fabrication_plants You know why we don’t abate it? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ EPA will leave you alone if you pay enough in lobbying. Nobody cares about NF3 though anyways. Like I said, you have no problem using the products that require it’s use—and nobody is going to stop using them anytime soon. So it’s quietly swept under the rug. It’s not so simple as Republicans just hate the poor and are at war with clean air and water. The reality is always complicated and not so clean cut. BTW, the fab I work at has the best benefits and pay in the valley here in Utah. Just don’t build your homes by us.
  5. I like this. I don't have too many personal spiritual experiences anymore--I'm too distracted. Side note: the most spiritually "in tune" I have ever been in my life was not on my mission, it was in basic training. No TV, no books outside military manuals and scriptures, no phones, no music--nothing. Most of my military career that followed was so hyper focused on training that I never had a lot of time for that stuff either. I did some stupid stuff, but for the most part, it was a time where I was surprisingly able to grow spiritually. Probably need to re evaluate where some of my time goes anymore. Anyhow, whenever I feel discouraged or in need of a spiritual "pick me up", it never comes in the form of new experiences. It comes in a surreal flood of positive memories and spiritual experiences from my mission and from the army, (mission was 11 years ago, and I got out of the army in 2015), and those reminders are enough to get me going again.
  6. SteveO

    On Zion Distant, and Babylon Close

    Robert, my initial comment on this thread was pointing out that labeling political opposition, as the Vox article did, is counterproductive to winning over people to one's point of view. Labeling Conservatives and Republicans as "Xenophobic" and with "reactionary resentment" is incendiary and off-putting. It's also ironic in this case, considering it had followed after Nibley's quote on labeling opposition. I took your comment on "xenophobic," as used in the Vox article about EPA regulations, as an attempt to make it seem less inflammatory by redefining it as a hatred of ecological stewardship. The context in the article was clearly labeling Republicans and Conservatives as bigots and racists who want to get rid of regulations to grind the faces of the poor (apparently Blacks and Hispanics). I think its unhelpful when discussing politics in such a divisive time. I didn't (and still don't) understand what horticultural motifs in Zenos' prophetic commentary had anything to do with anything--but I'll admit it might have gone over my head. Apologies.
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    On Zion Distant, and Babylon Close

    You and I, and everyone reading this knows in what context “xenophobic” was used in the article...drop the act
  8. SteveO

    On Zion Distant, and Babylon Close

    You and I, and everyone reading this knows what “xenophobic” means.
  9. SteveO

    On Zion Distant, and Babylon Close

    "Xenophobic" and "reactionary resentment"? You're sure to win hearts and minds
  10. SteveO

    Utah good place for Muslims

    The only restriction I know of is the travel ban. I happened to think it was reasonable. Can you show me an instance of Republican lawmakers passing legislation restricting the rights of Muslims? According to Pew research, there were 307 instances of Muslim hate crimes in 2016. Of the 307, 144 cases were forms of “intimidation”. Honestly, the only crimes against Muslims I hear about anymore are the ones in which the “victims” had fabricated the entire thing. Jews still “win” the most persecuted religion award, being on the receiving end of 684 hate crimes. I believe a group of Muslim immigrants murdered an elderly Jewish holocaust survivor in Paris for the sole crime of being Jewish. I still have not heard of a single Muslim being murdered in the west for the sole reason of their religion. And if I sound particularly aggressive, it’s because I do get worked up about it easily. I’ll straight up admit I do not like Muslims or their religion. I’m not public about it, and I’ll be courteous to whomever, but I absolutely do not care for their faith. I know it’s wrong, and it’s totally unbecoming of an LDS member, and totally at odds with the Gospel, but I think it’s something I’ll struggle with for a good long while. I’m glad they find Utah to be hospitable, it would be shameful for the church if they didn’t. But I dislike the obnoxious “surprise” in the article that a conservative state is found to be civil and inviting to people who are different.
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    Utah good place for Muslims

    “While we are, unfortunately, a red state, we are not rednecks," he said. "There is a sense of civility here that makes us unique. I am proud of that." Yeah, because as we all know, most Republicans are slack jawed redneck yokels...so fortunate that Utah is the exception to the rule. The article headline is kind of inflammatory as well.
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    New Revelations and the Future

    President Faust, in one of the last talks I heard him give (on my mission in Mexico), said he knew without a doubt the Savior lived. And then to be as clear as he could, he said “I know, because I have seen him with my own eyes” and pointed to his eyes. I was awestruck, and then looking around the chapel, nobody seemed to care what was just said. It’s like they didn’t even hear it. I think that reaction surprised me more than what President Faust said. At a stake conference two years ago, Elder Ballard spoke of a miracle in Africa that he was party to. They prayed for rain in middle of a drought of biblical proportions. It rained that same day. It was an incredible story—something on par with anything found in scripture. When we’re in the right place with the right attitude, you’ll find the church is filled with stuff like this. It is still very much “alive” with revelation and miracles. But they aren’t trumpeted to the world, and people who sit at home inactive waiting for it to come to them will probably find the church wanting. But the miracles are there.
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    Home/Visiting Teaching to be discontinued

    It’s a different economic world definitely. But people need to learn to live within their means and the virtue of delayed gratification. There’s always time to be found.
  14. SteveO

    New Revelations and the Future

    “But in coming days, it will not be possible to survive spiritually without the guiding, directing, comforting, and constant influence of the Holy Ghost.” I thought that a very solemn warning from President Nelson’s talk.
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    Home/Visiting Teaching to be discontinued

    I’m not trying to be hostile, I am wanting to get to the point though. You’ll have to explain to me how the vacancy left by Judas was filled. If “casting lots” isn’t a form of consensus, I don’t know what is. Patriachs often say that the words for blessings come very easily at first, ie actual images, words, and phrases. As time goes on though, the patriarch has to be more and more spiritually receptive to the promptings. I think that the church operates like that. We are no Martin Handcart company, and to witness the miracles and closeness to God their sacrifice and hardship brought about, we likewise have to sacrifice—but we obviously go about it differently. We’re the same church, but we’re also not the same church. Now. You said you have received personal revelation that differs from the brethren. Ok. The prophet says “position X is the standard church-wide, and will keep violators from the blessings of the temple”. You go to the Lord and receive a personal witness that what the prophet has said is not the will of the Lord. How was I extrapolating when I said that the prophet, with the Lord’s consent, would have to be teaching millions incorrectly, while at the same time telling you otherwise?
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