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    Thoughts on this?

    I have a nose bleed from the brain aneurism... I couldn’t finish the article so I pulled out
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    Sam Young is Excommunicated

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.deseretnews.com/article/900030038/heres-why-a-former-mormon-bishop-faces-discipline-from-the-church-of-jesus-christ-of-latter-day-saints.amp “During the strike he also characterized the church's position as "insane," called it "the most extreme, unsafe church in America," said "I would not join the church today" and encouraged others not to join.” I’m sure as brother Sam holds more press conferences, we’ll find out that it really has nothing to do with his concern for the children.
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    Widow's Bread for Elijah recipe?

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.haaretz.com/amp/archaeology/ancient-recipe-ezekiel-s-bread-1.5308010 Sounds awful...
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    Red Heifer: Coming of the Messiah?

    Well I showed my brother this, and he doesn’t think it means anything. I was always under the impression that D&C 13:1 was in reference to this, but he thinks that making an “offering in righteousness” refers to the current temple work, broken heart and a contrite spirit to be worthy to enter the temple, etc. I really don’t know.
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    Red Heifer: Coming of the Messiah?

    So as members of the church, how much significance do we place in something like this?
  6. Number 3, that isn’t something that would bother too many members here. We know there were other places Christ visited after His resurrection, we know there are other records out there. The story is faith promoting...
  7. This is the second time this past month on this board that I've seen the claim Joseph did what he did for money. Am I missing something here? I was under the impression that there was never a time in the whole of his life, that Joseph was financially stable/secure.
  8. If I were on my way out of the church...I would not be spending it....in church. I think these people's main problem, is that they need to be showed how to utilize a fully freed up Sunday. The wasted time just makes me sick.
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    D-News Reports 63,500 Missionaries Are Serving

    In my last area of my mission, I had found a large swathe of "territory" that I would be confident in speculating, no missionary had ever ventured. At the very least, no missionary had been in a very long time. We were in a mountain area, and the small villages, close to the chapel, had had literally every door knocked many times over. I thought it would be exciting and new to try out the area where I knew nobody had ever been to. It took 3 van rides and a bus ride to get there, and we packed lunches. I thought it was very cool, literally no one had ever heard of us, we didn't know where we were going--a pretty neat adventure. We decided to devote our time to going there and at least "getting our name out". The most excited I had been my whole mission. We contacted a lot, got a lot of lessons too. Just had the problem of getting people to church. Understandable, but I figured we had to start somewhere. On my next interview with the president, he told me that although my efforts were well intentioned, we needed to be closing the circle more around our places of worship and make sure we were teaching people who could make it to the meeting houses. Stuff like that...I guess I can see where he was coming from, but I did become disillusioned by how the numbers game threw a wet blanket on genuine zeal in proselyting efforts. Utah is growing fast, maybe the there is more potential there than we realize
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    An Apology to Gay Latter-day Saints

    So we’re just making things up now...
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    An Apology to Gay Latter-day Saints

    Uh, excuse me? You will ONLY use those terms? What about: LGBTTQQIAAP (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, transsexual, queer, questioning, intersex, asexual, ally, pansexual)? And that’s just one variation. You sister, are not woke enough. #getwoke
  12. How do you reconcile 2 Nephi's prophecies, which were always understood to be about the American continent? Does the more recent history of SE Asia "match" it like the early history of the United States? Also, Moroni, in his initial visitation to Joseph said that the gold plates gave "an account of the former inhabitants of this continent". Its just hard to square that Moroni wouldn't have had sufficient geological knowledge by that time...Although, now that I'm thinking about it, I always found it interesting how there is a section in the BoM that makes a big deal of how many people built boats and set off never to be heard from again. Maybe the BoM is a record for those that broke off and ended up at various Pacific Islands and perhaps the mainland Americas. That actually makes a ton of sense...Because BoM groups breaking off and being "scattered to the winds" would still be technically of the House of Israel, and still have the BoM be relevant to their decedents...and yet have their genetic markers originate from SE Asia? Am I kind of on the same wavelength as you about this? I'm on shift and not able to organize all this very well.
  13. I wouldn’t blame feminism per se, but the thinking goes that when women entered the workforce in larger numbers, it became saturated and depressed wages. That may have been true at one time, but now all I hear now a days is that there aren’t enough skilled trades to meet demand. Who knows? I do think it is very unfortunate that most can’t get by on a single income anymore. My dad’s greatest regret is not being able to make enough so that my mom wouldn’t have to work. I think ideally, I’d like to get myself in a situation where my wife doesn’t have to work either. Or at least where one of us doesn’t have to work. I’d rather daycare not be raising my kids for most of the work week.
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    Sacrament shooting

    Probably shouldn’t shoot people who offend you...just a friendly PSA for the evening
  15. I don't know how much you want or can divulge, but what counsel would you offer a client who was a member of the church, identified as gay, and wanted to reconcile the two, but was having an awful time with it?