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  1. ...and you have to log in to even use it, and those pop-ups!... Hopefully improvements are on the way.
  2. From an early age, I think it dawned on Him that He was different, had a peculiar self-image and was treated so very differently in His schooling (Luke 2:46-49) that it was fairly natural for Him to draw these conclusions from the text by virtue of His holy bias.
  3. I would say to try, if able, to get them to open their minds (which I think is a function of temperament), even if you are getting them to do so "again." Someone may well have "opened" his mind in the first place, but seems to prefer to hang his hat on politicized/ideologized information ("what's really going on") than on the more rigorous, "insider" analysis.
  4. I think generally, children "follow" and then as they grow up they begin to "seek," and then "find" and "become." Of course we can do that in the wrong direction or get stuck at any point along the way due to disobedience and tradition. Sometimes that is purely developmental and sometimes it is succumbing to the ease of short-cutting the processing of information (that which is plainly manifest is not received because of the exercise of the agency, or work, involved to do so). We typically end up doing both in different aspects of life. But hopefully in the main a saint can keep moving in the right direction.
  5. I see these as tools, and not solutions themselves, to help people inasmuch as their psychological development, preferences or styles may influence their spiritual development. Hopefully each generation builds and improves upon the last!
  6. Have you seen a relationship between how people process information and their conclusions? Is your preference due to the diagnostic nature of Fowler versus the descriptive nature of Perry, or something else?
  7. I don't think they can fix temperament and personality either... but if a GA retains a consultant at his own expense to coordinate a full vetting of his apologetic publications by independent "disciple scholars" I think that would be a wise and responsible thing for the author to do. I see things like the thread's subject book (and talks) as entirely the GA's responsibility, and feedback (preferably sooner than later) on a work that takes this much effort is essential for perfecting a scholarly defense and learning from possible (preferably prevented) mistakes. So I see a role for personal scribes and not necessarily a new ecclesiastical order. I think the trend for individual/home-based, Church-supported learning will actually help people in authority (Sunday School teachers and GAs), if they are trained and embrace the approach, to take more care in what they share their of their personal insights and understanding, and how.
  8. I don’t think how they carry out the work is a matter of what we want. I’m sure many of our GAs will say they felt guided and blessed by the Lord in choosing their fields of endeavor, and they tried to balance professional and spiritual devotion. Paradoxically, it seems the Lord was preparing them through their fields of labor for something many express feeling quite unprepared for at the time of their call. While their secular skills are certainly helpful in Church administration, and in some cases can be brought to bear in the spiritual aspects of their ministry, yet other skills (such as those the Lord teaches them in their councils and by the Spirit) are needed in exercising the keys. I think recognizing the parameters of one’s calling, how to go about his ministry, what talents to cultivate and draw from, and his aptitude in any of these are more a function of temperament and personality than an imposed education, which cannot “fix” that and in some cases may worsen it.
  9. I think secular knowledge is like riches (or nuclear power for that matter): "But before ye seek for riches, seek ye for the kingdom of God. And after ye have obtained a hope in Christ ye shall obtain riches, if ye seek them; and ye will seek them for the intent to do good—to clothe the naked, and to feed the hungry, and to liberate the captive, and administer relief to the sick and the afflicted." This tells me that neither riches nor scholarship are the key to the kingdom of God, but potential ancillary helps (or distractions) depending on one's hope in Christ. I think this hope is reflected in the ability to settle spiritual and academic concerns in good faith.
  10. He may have, but I believe that he didn't care much either way (appreciating the broad variability in perspectives) as long as they got the point. He may well think that the rib is literal, but his message concerns the metaphorical significance of the rib and suggests the Creator understands the number and the significance of that too. I know that I literally have twelve pairs of ribs (24 total) and not 23 total ribs. But the scriptures say there was a rib taken (which some construe to be the baculum in animals, which humans do not have), and not a pair of ribs, unless ancient Hebrews referred to each pair of costae in the singular.
  11. Elder Nelson was speaking metaphoricallly: "I presume another bone could have been used [figuratively, and the human anatomy facilitates this], but the rib, coming as it does from the side, seems to denote partnership. The rib signifies..." From Alma 30:44, "But Alma said unto him: Thou hast had signs enough; will ye tempt your God? Will ye say, Show unto me a sign, when ye have the testimony of all these thy brethren, and also all the holy prophets? The scriptures are laid before thee, yea, and all things denote there is a God; yea, even the earth, and all things that are upon the face of it, yea, and its motion, yea, and also all the planets which move in their regular form [and even the number of ribs assigned to man] do witness that there is a Supreme Creator."
  12. I think it is helpful when our scholars and general authorities freely exchange ideas and discuss these matters (whether publicly or privately), and even better when they respectfully allow each other to respectfully correct the other in their respective areas of expertise. I don't think Church leaders and scholars are the only ones affected by bias, which I think has more to bear on authentic scholarship than on authentic testimony, which all saints strive for. Discipline in scholarly matters promotes objectivity, and discipline in spiritual matters promotes subjectivity, and it takes a good deal of divine grace in my opinion to integrate both.
  13. In a sense. But those natural worlds are still less ordered than perfectly, and in the natural worlds things continue to break down, even life devolves into death and decay, and whatever goes into a black hole eventually explodes into something even less organized.
  14. Oops, sorry: my last remark was tongue-in-cheek due to the other thread... should have used an emoji! I wish you well in publishing your wonderful article! Meanwhile, i shall forget what I thought I had remembered!
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