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  1. I think returning to sin, in this case, is akin to "going back to your old ways" and not a strand of hiccups. It is not about sinning because someone is weak at times. It about starting to abandon the light on a consistent basis because they are starting to give up as if it doesn;t matter anymore.
  2. Tenth, I understand what you are saying. But consider this; The church is playing the long game... The emphasis on spending (or in this case, saving) is when the world finally goes kaput. Imagine the world in Revelation looking like something out of any dystopian sci-fi film. The world will be a wild place and I think that the church is gearing up for that world. In other words, think of the church's stance of self-sufficiency, only instead of on a personal level, think of it on a global scale for an organization. I would say not only is the church playing the long game...it is looking at the big picture too.
  3. The first question would be if she is generally a good person in other ways past her toxicity; I've known many people that are pretty decent past the way they treat people sometimes. Why this is important leads us to Gospel Principles; Most people that I have ever found to be toxic, do so as a defense mechanism to things that have happened to them in their past. The righteous are at rest from their troubles, which should mean her soul may be healed (and even understand why she acted that way) to the point where you may not even recognize her attitude. Also, for you to see her in Paradise or the Celestial Kingdom, you have to forgive her anyway. I don't say that lightly, I've had to forgive loved ones myself knowing how they screwed me up. Isn't an easy process, but healing happens when you put effort into understanding. BTW, I would say now would be a better time to learn forgiveness than waiting for the Celestial Kingdom. Like I said, not going to be easy. You are going to have to shelf some heavy items. Just go at it a little at a time.
  4. I think the pain that he suffered is symbolic of the spiritual and mental pain of despair and hopelessness of every living being that existed, which could be considered worse. I mean, something that makes you bleed from every pore unforced is bound to be pretty bad. Also, the fact that Gethsemane was they part where he actually made the decision to go through with it all. I imagine he was pretty resigned with everything else from that point. Certainly not to take away anything from the action on the cross. Actually, it's the follow through on the decision. How many of us make a decision to be better, just to weaken later or when the test finally arrives?
  5. Consider why you are asking us for? All you are going to get is other's peoples opinions on something that is between you and God. Don't use someone else's barometer for your personal connection with the Holy Spirit. (Not that anyone is trying to steer you wrong...)
  6. First of all, great question! A lot of people that do not know the church much would (and should) ask the same thing. I certainly did when I was investigating the church. The Holy Spirit is the guide to tell you if the amount is correct. Could be Gross, could be net, could be after before or after expenses to a personal business. All these things can be argued over, which solves nothing. If the Holy Spirit tells a member they are on track and OK. That's it. No one else's opinion matters. It is only expensive if you think it isn't worth it. And when I say that, I do not mean it is worth it because I am buying my ticket to heaven. Rather, I give it because I know what we do with it and have seen it first hand. And I'll leave this last one to maybe address the next question that might be lurking in your mind about this subject. (2 Corinthians 9:7) Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver. Keep asking good questions PopTart!
  7. How long have you been saving that 40k reference to use in this forum? LOL!
  8. From what I understand, the bishops are not supposed to ask anything but if you were a full tithe payer.
  9. This is where you use the Holy Spirit for the answer. Ask him. If you walk away from prayer not feeling guilty and having revelation you are OK, you are OK. It's actually quite that simple.
  10. There are a few impacts of tithing on people's lives; 1) They are putting God first when they tithe. Much like prayer and scripture reading in the morning to start your day right, tithing right away places God as a priority over anything else in your life. 2) A bit of a psychological thing on this one. I would think this helps steel your commitment to God. Kind of like joining a gym for $50 a month when you could easily just run around the block. "Well, I've invested now! Better make use of it or I've spent it for nothing!" So you go to the gym more often. 3) Because that 10% always feel like a significant chunk of change, it forces you to look at your finances more seriously. Do I really need "thing x"? Is "thing x" a necessity or a luxury? That is one extra step to getting out of a bad income bracket is having an actual plan to save money. 4) You start looking at the church and seeing if you can find reasons where your money might go a little more closely. For me, it was BYU-Idaho that really help solidify my testimony of what happens with tithing. I also know the Bishop's Storehouse is another top-notch operation. So that's four only based on real-world mechanics alone, regardless if anything were to happen supernaturally for anyone.
  11. I do not hear anyone say that we have ever worshipped Mormon. But there is an old saying my football coach told me... "If we score, we might win. If they score, they might win. But if they never score, then we never lose!" In other words, better safe than sorry. Do we really lose anything substantial from dropping the nickname as opposed to what we gain by being crystal clear about who we truly are?
  12. I think that it was said LDS was not to be used either. 70% sure.
  13. Well, although latterdaysaintdialogue.org doesn't have the name Jesus Christ in it, it is talking of us, the congregation, so it should work. But churchofjesuschristdialogue.org is probably better since it has the name Jesus Christ in it.
  14. Thanks for the heads up...fixed. It is latterdaysaintdialogue.org
  15. Hey all, In a bit of hoopla from President Nelson's talk, I was prompted to buy latterdaysaintdialouge.org latterdaysaintdialogue.org & churchofjesuschristdialogue.org before someone else did. Probably silly as if those against the church or this board were watching GC twirling their mustaches on how to mess with this board. Did it anyway. Don't want anything for it. I would be glad to transfer it to whoever owns the board here. Contact me and I'll get it sent to you. (I imagine it is an easy transition.)
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