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  1. 808 stories about interviews: http://protectldschildren.org/read-the-stories-2/ Link - Mormon missionaries admitted to sexually abusing children — but the church didn’t refer them to police: leaked documents Link - Instances of Child Sexual Abuse by Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints..... over 300 pages....
  2. Desperate times call for desperate measures. The "right approach" seems to be - remain silent, ignore, belittle, deny, cover up... that is the approach that was originally taken, what has happened for year and years years, and it did not work. Sam started with "the correct" approach, and no one listened.... hundreds of people are sending him abuse stories, he finds himself in the center of emergency situations that require immediate and drastic action - and he was strong enough to stand up and do what needed to be done to raise awareness. Examples of what is going around now... Link - Mormon missionaries admitted to sexually abusing children — but the church didn’t refer them to police: leaked documents Link - Instances of Child Sexual Abuse by Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints..... over 300 pages....
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    Speculations for General Conference

    Out of all of your critiques of the church in your post this one stood out to me the most. Are you saying that the church should change it's doctrine, it's core beliefs, in order to be more popular? (And I'm not sure what you mean by "things like seminary." The church does actually hold seminary.) Seminary, relief society, gospel doctrine - it is all dictated with no room for personal exploration and expression. You cannot question, or disagree with, anything the "prophet" has said... this is soooo wrong. We all have free agency. We all hold slightly different beliefs, have had different experiences which have formed those beliefs. We all must gain our own personal testimony without relying on the light of others. Other organizations recognize this, do not try to dictate beliefs, allow everyone personal inquiry and expression. Other churches allow everyone to find their own light, celebrate individual light, rather than dictating everyone's beliefs. Do not trust the arm of flesh = do not trust anyone (even if they are a prophet). Judas was a prophet, what are we to learn from that? Doubting Thomas was a prophet. 16 And I brought him to thy disciples, and they could not cure him. 17 Then Jesus answered and said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus. 30 But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me. Peter then denied again: and immediately the **** crew. And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour? Jesus said unto him, Judas, betrayest thou the Son of man with a kiss? We are supposed to trust and follow.... apostles??? I think the scriptures teach very clearly we cannot fully trust or rely on prophets and apostles - they are a rather incompetent bunch. It comes down to personal testimonies, not trusting in and following in the arms of flesh. Christianity is built on personal inquiry, personal revelation, personal relationship with God. When any person tries to dictate personal beliefs, tries to take away agency - "trust me, I know better than you" prideful stuff → this is the stuff the dark ages was made from. If the Mormon church really wants to be Christian, really wants to be the "Church of Jesus Christ" and not the "Church of Joseph Smith and other prophets", they need to allow everyone their own personal testimony, their own free agency, their own beliefs without trying to dictate every last little thing.
  4. The church's concern for victims can also be deduced by the number of support groups out there. Try this out - go to: https://addictionrecovery.lds.org/?lang=eng How many groups exist in your area to: a) support addicts b) support "victims" or friends / families of addicts? In my area, there are 9 face-to-face meetings within 25 miles for addicts and only 4 groups that support what I would term "victims" or friends/family/spouse of addicts. I have personally experienced this - abusers are going to support groups, and there is no support group for victims in my area.
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    I'm pretty inactive at this point in time - do not hold a temple recommend because I no longer trust the priesthood (abuse issues). My baptism covenants involved something about service - I find more service opportunities outside the walls of the church... dressing up, putting on makeup - pretending to be good and holy for 3 hours... I do not like it. It does not feel genuine or real.
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    I guess I am just comparing what the LDS curch in our neighborhood does with what the other church organizations in the neighborhood do. Most of the other churches have youth and preschool programs during the day - quite a few LDS kids attend other churches during the week because of this. (LDS moms are expected to stay at home, and not have a need for daycare or something?) The other churches also have combined study groups - there is a Jewish-Christian alliance group for example, and combined humanitarian groups, which LDS church does not participate in. I had a homeless girl living in her car in front of our home for 6 months who was a member (medical conditions / psychological conditions that did not allow her to use the guest room) and the church did not support her at all. I had to work with the other religious organizations in the area (Baptists raised money and bought her a new car etc.) The LDS church would not even let her use the showers in the bathroom during the day. I am working with immigrants and refugees (I live on the boarder) - again, not through the LDS church, but through a Catholic organization who is supporting food and clothing needs. I work with the city food bank - the LDS church does supply one type of food, but the # of volunteer hours and contributions pale in comparison to what the other church groups in the area are doing Other churches hold non-denominational scripture study classes open to all... while LDS holds things like seminary that only teach Mormon doctrine which is not as inviting to a wider audience. Different wards from different areas - I know... just seems like our ward is more concerned with keeping the building clean than concerned with inviting the community in and being part of the neighborhood.
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    What I am really hoping for - some new service project - something like: The church will now open and operate half-way homes Each stake will be opening food pantries and a thrift stores to feed the homeless in their area. The church buildings will now be used as community centers during the week with reading and writing lessons, health and exercise classes, counseling, and daycare. Is it wrong to spend Sundays volunteering instead of going to church? If church was something productive - if it was helping people in tangible ways - that would get more people to come I think.
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    If you are a "Looker" cloths matter... if you are a listener, or a talker - that is a different ball of wax:
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    Sam Young wore all black to his disciplinary council last Sunday.
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    I'm hoping the church dress code will change - no more white shirts, no more dresses - blue jeans and t-shirts for all? At least that would get a few more people to come to church ...
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    "The Benefits of Belief" - Video

    Why is salvation based on belief, rather than on character and good works?
  12. Quite true. In the end this is not about how anyone is acting or reacting - it is about the safety of children. Many children have been harmed through PPI's. two-deep policies are standard for any organization dealing with kids. The underlying cause and suggested solution is not fanatical or silly at all.
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    For the Strength of Youth

    It states again "while you are free to choose your course of actions" - this is not true. We are not always free to choose our course of actions.
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    For the Strength of Youth

    Anyone the world over understands the question, "are you sexually attracted to males, females, both, or neither"
  15. Not immediately fixing a situation that is perpetuating child abuse calls for drastic measures.
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