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  1. Just checked on exmormon reddit, and even they’re very skeptical of Denson’s claims. While it’s still uncertain what exactly happened, at this point it appears Denson is a troubled soul crying out for help.
  2. I’m having trouble understanding your logic here. Why would the couple serve champagne at their wedding? Isn’t that usually done at the reception, which are already being performed? Why would the bride choose a dress she couldn’t wear a couple of hours later during the sealing? Why would money be an issue, given the frugality of most LDS weddings, wouldn’t most of them be at the local church or another inexpensive venue? I’m really struggling to see how this isn’t anything but great news.
  3. Perhaps you should alert the brethren as the Church owns multiple press outlets.
  4. From my perspective, man. However, from a believing perspective I think you could easily make a valid case for God.
  5. Try reading the Old Testament, then the New Testament, then the D&C, then attend a modern day church service and then tell me doctrine doesn’t change.
  6. This wasn’t the point I was making. Referring to these essays as “Dehlin’s essays” is equivalent to referring to the church essays as “President Monson’s essays”. Anyways, this really isn’t important to the OP.
  7. Once again, the same criticism could be applied to the Church essays. IMO, it's not a big deal either way, I just feel it's more accurate to refer to them as "Mormon Stories Essays" as Dehlin has stated from the beginning they were not authored by him, but rather an "amateur historian". That being said, as John receives feedback on potential inaccuracies in the essays, it then becomes his responsibility to update accordingly.
  8. Wouldn't it be more accurate to refer to it as the "Mormon Stories Essays"? After all, we don't refer to the Church essays as "Monson's Essays" even though he likely commissioned and approved them. It should be noted that the Mormon Stories website has this to say regarding the essays: Also, when John first introduced the essays on his podcast, he reiterated this point by mentioning they were drafted by an amateur historian and were essentially a work in progress and therefore needed the help of his listeners for feedback on tone, content, and sources. John has now apparently received some feedback, lets see what he does with it.
  9. I wonder how many believing LDS here are disappointed with the Church’s response? While I understand that many are unhappy with the phrase “get your own planet”, it seems like this would have been an excellent opportunity for the Church to clarify the doctrine. In my experience, the belief that we can become gods and create worlds without number is widely held among the general membership and has been taught by Church leaders from the beginning. Unfortunatley, I think your average reader would come to the opposite conclusion based on the Newsroom response.
  10. I thought of this as well, but the idea that apostles and prophets need decades of church leadership experience seems to be a modern notion. I realize we live in a different world, however throughout the scriptures and even the modern church we see examples of apostles and prophets who were called without decades of leadership experience. I have a good friend who was called as a bishop a couple of years ago in a well established Utah ward. This friend is very devout and would do anything for the church, however he recently confided in me that when called, he was so upset he initially tried to turn it down, but ultimately accepted after some convincing from the SP. Both him and his wife were experiencing significant health issues, dealing with the recent and unexpected death of a parent, a struggling business they owned, and raising four small children. After recounting a number of horror stories, I expected him to say that after a rough beginning he now loves his calling and couldn’t imagine doing anything else, but instead while things have improved, he still feels like he’s treading water and wonders if he’ll make it. I’m left wondering, is it worth the toll taken on these men and their families when there are often so many other older men that could truly dedicate their time and experience to the calling?
  11. We recently attended my in-law’s ward in Orem, Utah and I noticed the bishop was in his mid-thirties with four small children. This isn’t too unusual, however approximately 80% of the ward consisted of retirees with the remaining 20% comprised of newlyweds and a few families. Growing up in the 80s and 90s all of my bishops were in the 45-55 year old range, however since then they have all been in the 35-45 year old range (except for the student wards I attended). It seems that when possible, a retired priesthood holder (or at a minimum one with grown children) would make the ideal bishop. It would allow the bishop to have the time needed to dedicate to the calling, decades of additional church service experience, while not being a burden for those families with young children. I realize my experience is anecdotal, however have any of you noticed bishops getting called at a younger age over the last couple of decades? Is there any scriptural support or have the brethren ever stated why bishops are called at a reletively young age?
  12. Yes, the Trib covered the story yesterday (I believe they were the first, but don’t hold me to that). I agree, this was done in poor taste and he would likely never pull a similar stunt if the predominant religion were Judiasm or Islam. Disappointing, especially since he was so great on Arrested Development.
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