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  1. You can read the first few chapters here to see what it will be like: https://history.lds.org/saints?lang=eng&cid=rdb_v_saints_eng. It's written in simple language, but I think it's pretty good. These first chapters talk about seer stones and treasure digging, for example, which will probably be new information for a lot of members.
  2. mapman

    Navigating college admissions

    In answer to your big question: I worked for BYU a while ago in admissions, so I'm familiar with how they do things (though I would recommend talking to them anyways because my info could be out of date). You can't get refunded the application fees for the BYU schools, though they are a one-time fee, so if you reapply in the future you don't have to pay it again. Accepting your admission doesn't involve paying any money, and you can always change your mind later. You don't get charged tuition until you actually sign up for classes, and if you were to drop the classes before the add/drop deadline (a week into the semester), you get a full refund on tuition. I think this is pretty similar to how most schools operate, but of course other colleges could do it differently. I'm not sure about housing deposits since I didn't work in that.
  3. I know this is supposed to be funny, but we need to be clear that Millennials aren't teenagers any more. Millennials are people born between early 1980s to the mid-90s. Most of them are adults with careers and a lot of them have started their own families. I enjoy video games, but I haven't actually played any in about a month because finals are coming up and I also have work. I've never played Call of Duty myself nor Pokemon Go. I have a friend that plays Pokemon Go regularly, but its not like its taking up a significant amount of his time. The dumb stereotypes and hilariously shallow understanding of what it is like to be a Millennial shown in this thread goes a long way to explain why Millennials have been abandoning their parents' churches.
  4. I think that most people still want to get married and have kids. I don't know all the reasons why people don't get married as soon, but I think its partly economic insecurity and a reaction to all the divorces in our parents' generation. I was trying to think about if I know someone my age (mid 20s) still living with their parents, but I couldn't think of anyone other than someone with mental health issues, so I don't know who all these people are and why exactly they are in that situation. I rent an apartment and I imagine will do that for a long while still. It is a lot easier to do that though when you are single because you have roommates who are also paying rent. I guess it's just a matter of it being cheaper to live with relatives so you get a chance to save up more money.
  5. The average age to get married in the mid-1700s was like 30.This was the generation that fought in the Revolutionary War and gave us all the freedoms we enjoy. Although people have a hard time imagining this, living like it's the 1950s isn't the answer for all times and places. Part of the reason that a lot of young Mormons have a hard time being a single member is because people equate being married with being competent and mature. Believe it or not single adults can be competent and mature and don't need to be treated like teenagers. I agree that having more people living with their parents can be problematic (I think its somewhere between a quarter and a third of millennials). Economic insecurity and the increasing difficulty for young people to be able to afford buying homes I'm sure has a lot to do with it. I don't think it is all people playing video games in their parents' basements.
  6. According to Wikipedia Millennials are usually understood to be people born from the early 1980s to mid 1990s. These are mostly people who already have careers or are in college working towards that, people who have to deal with the screwed up economic and political realities that older generations left for them. They may have less loyalty to corporations, but studies haven't shown any major differences in work ethic, just that Millennials tend to be more idealistic, more concerned with balancing work with the rest of their lives, more willing to get paid less to work in a field they are interested in, and do more volunteer work than previous generations. It's absolutely ridiculous that people can think that Millennials lives revolve around memes and video games. People are people. Each generation is biologically the same. People grow up in different circumstances, but someone born in 1100 or 1960 or 1990 is going to act basically the same. There have always been lazy people. If you look for them you will find them. New generations tend to be disillusioned with old institutions and way of doing things, and old people complain about it and think the world is ending. There is no new thing under the sun. Edit to add: If we are going to over-generalize anyways, lets remember that the baby-boomer generation gave us the hippies. Therefore we can conclude that baby boomers are lazy leftists that expect everything to be given to them and don't know how to get real jobs. Their lives probably revolve around watching sitcoms all day and doing drugs with their friends. They are rudderless and don't know what to do with their lives. They are atheists or into self-centered spirituality.
  7. One thing I've thought about is that our reputation has suffered along with the decline in acceptance of Evangelicalism and fundamentalists by younger people. We aren't evangelicals or fundamentalists (or at least shouldn't be), but I think certain overly-partisan Christian groups have come to be the epitome of Christianity in a lot of people's minds. People see how churches getting involved in politics has corrupted them and the perception is that Christians are hypocrites that claim to want religious freedom but really mean they want to preserve Christian privileges, that they claim to follow Christ's teachings but fight against people's rights and support morally bankrupt politicians. Obviously most Christians aren't actually like that, but that is how many Millennials view Christianity, and that I think is how many young Mormons come to view the religion they grew up in. I'm not sure what kind of solution there is for this, but it is a problem that all not-crazy Christians have to figure out: how to not get lumped in with the fundamentalists and partisans in the public's minds.
  8. I don't like that people are so swift to jump to the conclusion that Jana Riess is completely incompetent at doing surveys and that this survey is worthless and meant to discredit the church. I'm sure that one could probably find things to criticize about their study, but you should probably actually read it first instead of just assuming it's junk. I think that Dialogue has high enough standards that they wouldn't publish a non-scientific survey like the one John Dehlin did a while ago. Also even if you disagree with her approach to our religion, she is a faithful member and everything I have read from her has led me to believe that she thinks what she does is helping the church. (Also it's off-topic, but I have to say that her book on spiritual lessons in Buffy the Vampire Slayer I thought had some really great insights and actually helped me out quite a bit during a rough patch in my life where I didn't really want to engage with the church that much but was willing to read a book about one of my favorite shows). I also wanted to note that I grew up in a family that wore Sunday clothes during the whole Sabbath (this would be the 90s and 2000s), so it is definitely a thing. As far as I know my parents still do this, but my siblings that have moved out we have all dropped this practice.
  9. I'm having a hard time finding it right now, but I was pretty sure that I remember reading a post on her blog where she said that self-identifying Mormons they surveyed were asked about whether they ever had seriously doubted teachings of the church. About half never had serious issues, and then some had occasional or minor issues, and then another segment of Mormons had serious issues. I assume that it is this third group that they categorize as "Doubters." If I remember correctly the ex-Mormons were surveyed about the reasons for them leaving the church, so they would have been asked different questions and not counted as Mormons, doubters or otherwise. Perhaps cinepro will be able to confirm whether I remember correctly.
  10. mapman

    Modesty standards

    Thank you for sharing!
  11. mapman

    Yerba mate

    It's a south american drink. If you have a Latin American grocery store nearby where you're at you can probably find it there. You buy ground up bits of the plant (yerba), stick it in a cup, put hot water in it, and then drink it with a special straw that doesn't let the little bits of plant to get sucked up. Alternatively you could try to find it in tea bags. I'd just warn you that it is pretty bitter unless you load sugar into it, and a lot of Americans aren't huge fans of it.
  12. mapman

    Yerba mate

    I like it best with lots of sugar. It's good with honey. Chuchupate doesn't ring any bells for me, sorry.
  13. mapman

    Yerba mate

    I got back from my mission in Argentina about 3 years ago. Mate was definitely ok for members to drink. We had a mission rule that missionaries couldn't drink it. My mission president changed that rule part way through my mission so that we could drink mate from tea bags, but not the mate that is passed around and drunk from one straw. I never heard anyone suggest that mate was against the word of wisdom.
  14. mapman

    Modesty standards

    I agree with the poster that said that the modesty discussion should include not wearing costly apparel. I think modesty is at its essence humility in the way we present ourselves. The issue of people's sexual thoughts about other people then isn't central to the doctrine of modesty, but I guess a related issue. I think we need to be more clear about what are actually innapropriate thoughts. Are we responsible for intrusive sexual thoughts? I don't think anyone would say you are since you can't control them, but I think lots of people feel guilty about them anyways. What differences are there between sexual objectification and other sexual thoughts? Do you have to consciously choose to objectify someone? Are different thoughts appropriate for a single person than a married person? I'm interested in people's thoughts on these questions.
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    Mormon Newsroom and Suicide

    This journal article, "Depression in Childhood and Adolescence," concludes that "Across development, a family history of depression and exposure to stressful life events are the most robust risk factors for depression. Familial transmission involves both psychosocial and heritable processes; genetic and environmental influences also combine to influence risk." From a little bit of Googling and reading, my impression was that the consensus among researchers was that depression in children and teens most commonly is a mixture of genetic/biological factors and traumatic and stressful events in their life. The church statement posted in the OP I think is correct to point to bullying of LGBT people as one of those traumatic experiences that can lead to depression and suicide. This study, "Avoidance or boredom: Negative mental health outcomes associated with use of Information and Communication Technologies depend on users’ motivations," argues that using technology in a compulsive way to avoid problems in your life is linked to depression and anxiety, while it is not connected to using the same things merely for entertainment. Just a couple of articles I found that seemed relevant, I'm not that knowledgeable of psychology or anything.