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  1. I have the same problem with T-shirts. Garment sleeves stick out if I wear a large T-shirt (my size) so I have to wear XL or pull the sleeves up. I need to try these new garments asap!
  2. Which is why the policy was not necessary in the first place. IMHO.
  3. I was never on board with it being a revelation in the first place. Just never felt right.
  4. Looks like Maestrophil beat me to it by two minutes. 😆
  5. This just popped up on my feed from KSL.com "Church to allow baptisms, blessings for children of LGBT parents, updates handbook regarding 'apostasy'. https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900063943/church-lgbt-gay-lesbian-policy-mormon-baptisms-blessings-apostasy.html
  6. I had a neighbor who wouldn’t let his children drink root beer from a bottle because it looked too much like a beer. Avoiding the appearance of evil and all. I wonder if that neighbor realized that beer comes in cans as well? That same ward had the deacons pass the sacrament with their left hand behind their back for the first few years I was there. They kept white shirts and ties in a closet, so deacons had no excuse to pass the sacrament in anything but a white shirt and tie. (tennis shoes were ok for some reason).
  7. My gay son married his partner last year. He resigned his membership years ago. There are no adopted children yet, but if there ever are, as their grandfather, it would make me sad to know I could never baptize them. In fact, I would probably not even attempt to take them to church because I wouldn’t want them to feel left out or “other” by the other children.
  8. Yes, people can be foul or un-Christlike on both sides of the issue. After revealing that I have a gay son and two gay BIL’s on the LDSFF board, some posters referred to them as “sodomites” and/or evil sinners. I contacted the mods and indicated that this was offensive and against board rules, and they said they didn’t see anything wrong.
  9. I’m still working on what I consider art and what I do not (I don’t consider Rap Music art, but that’s neither here nor there) But regarding the cake images above – It seems to me that if I’m a baker and I make inappropriately themed cakes (like the examples above) for some people, it would or should be illegal for me to not make them for other people just because they are gay. If I refuse to make them for anyone, then I’m good. I guess it comes down to what you deem “inappropriate”.
  10. I personally believe Elton John should not have that right (I know he does now). And if he does, he should be required to refund the purchase price of the album in question. And this coming from a musician.
  11. I’m not sure where the line should be drawn on many of the examples used in this thread (on either side). I’m a musician with recorded music available, but I’m not sure I agree that someone like Elton John should be able to dictate where or when or for whom his music can be played once it’s bought and paid for. If someone purchases my CD and I later find that they are playing it at their church of Satan luncheon, can I demand that they desist? And if so, should I be required to refund their money? In my opinion, once it’s paid for, it’s theirs to do with as they please. If I, as an artist, were to sell a painting, then later find that it was hung in a church of Scientology, should I be allowed to demand that they remove it? If I were to ask an atheist chandelier maker to fashion a chandelier for an LDS temple, should he have the right to refuse based on his non-religious convictions? How about if I ask an evangelical baker to make an all-white cake with the letters “Congratulations” across the top, but let it slip that the cake is to celebrate the sealing of an LDS couple. Should he have the right to refuse? I don’t know…I’m torn.
  12. kllindley said: I actually would love that information. I have still yet to hear such an experience aside from general rumors and claims that it happens all the time. Take for example, a recently viral story about a young high school student who received thousands of dollars of scholarship after publicly stating that his parents kicked him out for being gay. He later admitted in an interview that his parents had been more than happy to have him in their home for several years, knowing he was gay. They asked that he still follow family Rules, including attending their church on Sunday. What he was no longer willing to do this, he moved it with a friend. I don't consider this being kicked out for being gay. I am ashamed to admit that the first scenario you mention applies to myself. Thankfully, my wife and I have changed our attitudes towards our, now married, gay son, and he and his husband are welcome in our home anytime. As far as “kicking them out when they come out as gay” …well, there’s always two sides to every story, but my brother’s family has just such a teen living in his basement. He was asked to leave if he wouldn’t stop acting and/or dressing gay. He’s never had a boyfriend as far as I know.
  13. Well, I don't have 25 years of therapy experience, but I can show him a case I know of today, if he likes.
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