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    Do you see the church shortening the Endowment?

    It has already been shortened. And more than once.
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    An Apology to Gay Latter-day Saints

    Yes, people can be foul or un-Christlike on both sides of the issue. After revealing that I have a gay son and two gay BIL’s on the LDSFF board, some posters referred to them as “sodomites” and/or evil sinners. I contacted the mods and indicated that this was offensive and against board rules, and they said they didn’t see anything wrong.
  3. I’m still working on what I consider art and what I do not (I don’t consider Rap Music art, but that’s neither here nor there) But regarding the cake images above – It seems to me that if I’m a baker and I make inappropriately themed cakes (like the examples above) for some people, it would or should be illegal for me to not make them for other people just because they are gay. If I refuse to make them for anyone, then I’m good. I guess it comes down to what you deem “inappropriate”.
  4. I personally believe Elton John should not have that right (I know he does now). And if he does, he should be required to refund the purchase price of the album in question. And this coming from a musician.
  5. I’m not sure where the line should be drawn on many of the examples used in this thread (on either side). I’m a musician with recorded music available, but I’m not sure I agree that someone like Elton John should be able to dictate where or when or for whom his music can be played once it’s bought and paid for. If someone purchases my CD and I later find that they are playing it at their church of Satan luncheon, can I demand that they desist? And if so, should I be required to refund their money? In my opinion, once it’s paid for, it’s theirs to do with as they please. If I, as an artist, were to sell a painting, then later find that it was hung in a church of Scientology, should I be allowed to demand that they remove it? If I were to ask an atheist chandelier maker to fashion a chandelier for an LDS temple, should he have the right to refuse based on his non-religious convictions? How about if I ask an evangelical baker to make an all-white cake with the letters “Congratulations” across the top, but let it slip that the cake is to celebrate the sealing of an LDS couple. Should he have the right to refuse? I don’t know…I’m torn.
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    Jeff Robinson on the LGBT issue at FairMormon

    kllindley said: I actually would love that information. I have still yet to hear such an experience aside from general rumors and claims that it happens all the time. Take for example, a recently viral story about a young high school student who received thousands of dollars of scholarship after publicly stating that his parents kicked him out for being gay. He later admitted in an interview that his parents had been more than happy to have him in their home for several years, knowing he was gay. They asked that he still follow family Rules, including attending their church on Sunday. What he was no longer willing to do this, he moved it with a friend. I don't consider this being kicked out for being gay. I am ashamed to admit that the first scenario you mention applies to myself. Thankfully, my wife and I have changed our attitudes towards our, now married, gay son, and he and his husband are welcome in our home anytime. As far as “kicking them out when they come out as gay” …well, there’s always two sides to every story, but my brother’s family has just such a teen living in his basement. He was asked to leave if he wouldn’t stop acting and/or dressing gay. He’s never had a boyfriend as far as I know.
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    Jeff Robinson on the LGBT issue at FairMormon

    Well, I don't have 25 years of therapy experience, but I can show him a case I know of today, if he likes.
  8. Anyone know what petition they are referring to in this BBC interview?
  9. Excellent book. Pres. Topp was my Stake President. Awesome man!
  10. Anyone watch American Ninja Warrior? This "Mormon Mom" couldn't walk up until about 8 months ago. Now she is competing on American Ninja Warrior. She attributes this to cannabis and chiropractic car. https://www.ksl.com/?sid=45603520&nid=148
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    Mormon Pop Music 2.0?

    As a close friend of both Joel and Kevin (Afterglow), I can say that even though much thought and work went into the creation of their songs, as with most song writers, there were times when a line had more to do with the rhyming scheme of the song and less to do with making sure it was doctrinally correct.
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    1st Pres. and NAACP

    Maybe this has been discussed, but how exactly was it ever determined that a person was “black” enough that they couldn’t have the priesthood? I’ve heard the “not one drop” phrase, but how was that determined before the days of DNA testing? Not everyone knows their ancestry beyond a couple generations. And just how dark would someone have to be to be considered “black”? Barak Obama is only half black, but he is fairly dark skinned. Meghan Markle is lighter skinned, but she is half black as well. I’ve also heard it was only blacks with ancestry from Africa that were banned from the priesthood. What about those with dark skin from Brazil or India or the aborigines from Australia? Were they not considered “cursed”?
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    Fashion Question

    My garment sleeves always show if I wear t-shirts that fit me (large). I could always start buying XL, but then I'd risk wearing clothes that are "too baggy". What to do...
  14. You probably mean Imagine Dragons.
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    Mission calls and Monday nights

    Yes! It seems to be a fad here in Utah County. I've been to at least 4 of these, just for my nieces and nephews, the past few years. And because my calling was with the YM, I heard about and saw these videos and/or parties all the time.