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Bernard Gui

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  1. Bernard Gui

    Sam Young is Excommunicated

    Yes, it is. If Moroni was a fictional character or a delusion, then the Restoration is also a delusion. All the testimonies and statements about it that are canonized in the D&C would be false. I have no problem with multiple accounts.
  2. Bernard Gui

    Sam Young is Excommunicated

    I understand. It’s human nature. Perhaps we should expect more from members of the Church.
  3. Bernard Gui

    Sam Young is Excommunicated

    They are implicit in the doctrine of the Restoration. No First Vision, no Book of Mormon, no Restoration. D&C 1 and 5 and the testimony of the witnesses make that crystal clear.
  4. Bernard Gui

    Sam Young is Excommunicated

    Interesting suggestion. So many times dissensions and contention arose in the Nephites Church. None of them turned out well. That’s a major continuing theme in the Book of Mormon.
  5. Bernard Gui

    Sam Young is Excommunicated

    But that can be true of any relationship or any group.
  6. Bernard Gui

    Sam Young is Excommunicated

    That doesn’t help me understand how the questions I highlighted can be truthfully answered. One and only true church....implicit in 3 and 4. BoM....3. First Vision.....3. Prophet leading Church astray....3 and 4.
  7. Bernard Gui

    Sam Young is Excommunicated

    3, 4, 6, 8, 13, 15...optional? How could one honestly be worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in ordinances one believes to be meaningless, deluded, or false? I'm really trying hard to understand this line of thinking. How could one honestly teach others in a religious situation something one does not believe? I would never presume to teach Catholicism in a Catholic Church or Judaism in a synagogue. How would that work in an LDS setting? 1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost? 2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer? 3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days? 4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church? 5 Do you live the law of chastity? 6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church? 7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? 8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel? 9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen? 10 Are you a full-tithe payer? 11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom? 12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations? 13 If you have previously received your temple endowment: a) Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple? b) Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple? 14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been? 15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances
  8. Bernard Gui

    Sam Young is Excommunicated

    Please explain how one can not believe in the truth claims of the Church and answer yes in a temple recommend interview or accept a calling where they will be expected to teach something they reject and don't believe.
  9. Bernard Gui

    President Nelson Comes to Seattle and Vancouver

    What do 50,000 Saints look and sound like? https://www.facebook.com/pugetsoundmormons/?hc_ref=ARTUyqH9HvpTZ6qNsKQwncC7WhXw-08zTra7sg7mDnXbCMAzl5ZZlIzbfL7kncKlrd4&fref=nf&__xts__[0]=68.ARBPtH6RRVY3Tz2JrYMPm4hnVmwQC7Gq2PQrLMfmdWYj5snSJ8T9tsdbdb38Nt6de-Y-Cu7Ml0StIz0H70y5nkm1HDjpIaA2NMwHLU87dBHdGvdcc5EILXXFBSh3GFnwOVgLGb3fwV3W-hqamJRSJxYAXFqa6UGXW6GOYpAGcwKRa0t6s8Fxiwr8trAiObdEJOhtCbViZ_27J1oCtna2r4HeVCiW07ewV6w4RpT3EQ&__tn__=kCH-R
  10. Bernard Gui

    President Nelson Comes to Seattle and Vancouver

    Trust no one over 30.
  11. Bernard Gui

    Sam Young is Excommunicated

    My question was generic....how does one justify....? I don't think one can, but apparently folks you know do. How do they do that? Oh..... As Far As I Am Concerned.
  12. Bernard Gui

    Sam Young is Excommunicated

    Depends on where the disagreement leads. In the present case, it has led to some unfortunate consequences.
  13. Bernard Gui

    Sam Young is Excommunicated

    If personal integrity counts, how does one justify lying to accept a calling or a get a temple recommend? IFAIAC, taking a stand with the First Presidency is taking a stand with the Lord inasmuch as they are the ones designated to represent him with authority on the earth.
  14. Bernard Gui

    Sam Young is Excommunicated

    Doesn’t personal integrity count? The time has arrived when members will have to decide whether or not they stand with the First Presidency. This time has been prophesied. Some leaders and apologists have been accused of “Lying for the Lord.” This appears to be the same concept.
  15. Bernard Gui

    President Nelson Comes to Seattle and Vancouver

    False prophets don’t count. 🙃
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