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About etana

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  1. I mean, by that definition i find brother/sister? Scott's use of the word to describe a wedding of a loved one repugnant and immoral. But is suppose we are all limited in our capacity to make judgement on an other's motes by our own understanding--or our own willingness to understand.
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    pants means underpants in British English. Don't even get me started on fanny-packs.
  3. Yes, i think it is a lot more nuanced than any simple pithy reduction to a list of don'ts. Meat is complicated as is alcohol and tea, all of which can be beneficial or detrimental. I see it as avoiding making our consumption a stumbling block for others (the weakest of saints), Romans 4:21, 1 Cor 8:13. So if i avoid Ice cream around my mother, who struggles to stop after a scoop, i'm living the spirit of the WoW. If i grab a big slice of cake and extra scoops and frequent red meat around my family members who i know to be struggling with obesity, i am not.
  4. Absolutely, but that misses much of the nuance of the discussion here. For relevance, do you think, had he been invited, that President Bush would have attended Ellen's wedding?
  5. To me (with REAL congratulations) it conveys approval of the fact that they're happy and celebrating.
  6. Don't forget too many bananas.
  7. It means "not figurative", "as written" etc. It means the same today but annoyingly enough has also gained a second meaning of "figurative" in some usage.
  8. Gal 1: 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 1 Thes 5:20-21 Despise not prophesyings. Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
  9. It's really not a difficult concept, to be happy for someone's positive circumstance simultaneously with not agreeing with every step they took to get there. And it is simple to love and celebrate success without sullying that love with excess concern over the motes in their eyes.
  10. I know the enhanced cherry-picked subset of requirements. I I don't understand how they reconcile with the actual text. I understand the purpose: Romans 14:21 20Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All things indeed are pure, but it is evil for the man who eats with offense. 21 It is good neither to eat meat nor drink wine nor do anything by which your brother stumbles or is offended or is made weak. I Cor 8:8But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse. 9But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.… 12But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ. 13Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend. But not why it is marketed as a metric for personal (or worse, other peoples') righteousness instead. There is more I don't understand than there is that i do, as with most things.
  11. Your non sequitur doesn't follow from your gross oversimplification. I'll thank you not to ascribe motives that aren't there. Enjoy your post Temple summer meat BBQ.
  12. Edit: In any event, as i clearly don't understand the WoW, i can't be going back to the Temple anytime soon anyway.
  13. Exactly. And this is similar to the day my friends or family members get to commemorate a lifelong commitment to be with the one they love, to have each others backs and take joy in one another is a day that i can celebrate and in my love for them take great joy in their happiness without dirtying things with judgements based on my own understanding and lack of knowledge of their own hearts. I can wish god didn't make them gay, just as i can wish he didn't make me ugly, but we must all act and decide and live within the spheres we find ourselves given to.
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