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  2. Prophets are “commanded”, to warn. This way the judgements of God are just, and righteous. For a Prophet not to warn, is the same for a parent who does not teach their children “truth and righteousness”, the sins will be upon their hands and heads.
  3. So we've go 16 million delusional church members doing just fine and not getting locked up in the funny farm, and you can't put together a coherent argument without calling people names. Heavy, dude.
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  5. I've written several Easter posts on my blog. Inspiration hadn't hit this year, and I didn't think it was going to. Then I thought of a young lady I met on my mission. https://www.greatgourdini.wordpress.com/2019/04/21/lisa-my-teacher/
  6. What are the odds for the Open House attracting 3 million visitors? How long will that take? Will they run the event 24 hours each day from Monday thru Saturday for however many weeks?
  7. I am not Stargazer - Storm Rider. 😁 I haven't read the entire thread; I just don't have that kind of time. I cannot tell if his is serious or you throwing shade my way. I hope you do not feel anyone thinks you are evil. I have never thought that of you to any degree.
  8. So I have to give up my diabetes shakes. They are a mixture of whole milk, white chocolate cocoa, caramel, and blue bell vanilla ice cream. They are delicious........
  9. I prefer the dingy building during extreme weather.
  10. I taught Sunday School and almost cried. Spirit strong. Sacrament was amazing. Only downside is everyone was visiting family and the sacrament count was way down. Upside is that this is not the month that goes on the quarterly report And influences funding.
  11. Here is one iteration of that prophecy given by Jesus in his visit to the New World: 14 Yea, wo be unto the Gentiles except they repent; for it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Father, that I will cut off thy horses out of the midst of thee, and I will destroy thy chariots; 15 And I will cut off the cities of thy land, and throw down all thy strongholds; 16 And I will cut off witchcrafts out of thy land, and thou shalt have no more soothsayers; 17 Thy graven images I will also cut off, and thy standing images out of the midst of thee, and thou shalt no more worship the works of thy hands; 18 And I will pluck up thy groves out of the midst of thee; so will I destroy thy cities. 19 And it shall come to pass that all lyings, and deceivings, and envyings, and strifes, and priestcrafts, and whoredoms, shall be done away. 20 For it shall come to pass, saith the Father, that at that day whosoever will not repent and come unto my Beloved Son, them will I cut off from among my people, O house of Israel; 21 And I will execute vengeance and fury upon them, even as upon the heathen, such as they have not heard. 22 But if they will repent and hearken unto my words, and harden not their hearts, I will establish my church among them, and they shall come in unto the covenant and be numbered among this the remnant of Jacob, unto whom I have given this land for their inheritance; Pretty sure the wall would fall under “strongholds”.
  12. Agreed. BUT.... I think if we had a uniform view of how to understand scripture it would go a long way to functioning LIKE a "uniform theology"- in that confusion in interpretations would be avoided. So we would retain the ability to keep scripture primary, while having perhaps a uniformly accepted methodology for interpreting scripture which would also allow for personal variation according to what we receive in individual testimony experiences. I see it as somewhat contradictory to insist that each person have her own "testimony" while insisting that all "true" testimonies retain certain uniform content, like perhaps, prophetic infallibility which arguably might conflict with free agency at least in principle. A literal interpretation of Genesis, we have seen, is perceived to conflict with science (though I disagree with that due to the fact that the apparent conflict can be explained through seeing each as a different paradigm or language game) The question of which member or even faith has the RIGHT "testimony" clearly conflicts with the teaching that ALL may earnestly seek the Spirit to receive their own answers. A methodology which taught that God can move each of us according to His own plan for us as individuals, would go a long way toward making our insistence on" having our own testimonies" consistent with individual growth and gospel maturation. One does not expect a primary child to have the same kind of testimony as a BYU PhD. Yet we see those kind of discussions here on this board all the time coming from new converts or others who may not fully understand the gospel, accusing others of near apostasy because their personal testimony disagrees with the other person's testimony. And so I think a uniform understanding about how gospel interpretation happens would be a great step for unification, even if we acknowledge that there will never be - and should not be- a "systematic theology" which puts "the philosophies of men" ahead of personal revelation- ie: scripture- of our own or anciently revealed. I think some kind of mechanism for teaching literary hermeneutics https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermeneutics early on is essential to achieving this kind of goal. One may start out with the idea of the "Tower of Babel" for example- teaching how God "confounded" language, and the implications of that for scripture itself. How does language function in our lives? How do we interpret what others say, not only in church, but in life in general? If we are going to eschew systematic theology and stress personal testimony through scriptural interpretation, one needs to learn how to personally interpret scripture! And not in a way which makes one interpretation "right" and the other "wrong", but in a way which leads to personal growth through interaction with the interpretation of others, and the attitude that discussions are about learning how others think, and not about finding the "right answer" which may vary from person to person and how to resolve such differences in an amicable way. And yes, the other side of this is teaching orthopraxis and that being LDS IS a lifestyle, and any measure of whether or not one's individual testimonies are "right" has always to end in a test not of opinion but of orthopraxis through the temple recommend interview or some similar test of orthopraxis. And I think the church is now evolving in this direction by stressing discussion over lectures in Sunday School, discussions about conference talks instead of simply reading the talk and being expected to act on it in a slavish manner. So again, I think the question is more about a uniform methodology for understanding and creating our own interpretations and evaluating those of others, as opposed to a systematic catechism of doctrines to be rigidly followed. But to get there, we have to actually teach that. I think we are headed in the right direction, I just wish someone would stand on the gas pedal and get there quicker before we lose any more members to the old method. But President Nelson seems to be on that path, I wish him a life span like that of Methuselah !
  13. Happy Easter all. Christ is risen. He is risen indeed.
  14. Yesterday
  15. You're wrong. In fact, the LoF were the "Doctrine" of the Doctrine and Covenants.
  16. You are flesh and blood, right? What part of "for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee" did you not understand? Thanks, -Wade Englund-
  17. Well it matters otherwise God would not have left so many symbols in his creation that points to him. Moses 6:63 And behold, all things have their likeness, and all things are created and made to bear record of me, both things which are temporal, and things which are spiritual; things which are in the heavens above, and things which are on the earth, and things which are in the earth, and things which are under the earth, both above and beneath: all things bear record of me The dispensations, and the dispensation heads themselves align to the successive laws in the temple. The law of the gospel aligns to our identity now in the temple if that's not saying too much. The law of the gospel aligns to the dispensation of Noah and the fifth day of creation where many of these links can unlock the mystery of who we are, where we came from, and what's next on our eternal journey. So yeah it matters I hope to finish up the next article soon that focuses on the fifth day of creation and who we are. I've got to go get ready for my extended family who is coming for Easter dinner or I would spend more time here on this post. Thanks for chiming in.
  18. Wade, I just saw God and he told me that Mormonism is made up. Do you believe me? It requires faith to do so. Maybe the kind of faith that you lack? If you don't believe me, it might be rough for you in the future worlds. At least that is what God told me to tell you. Act at your own risk Wade. Thanks!
  19. Who is claiming to speak to God through a rock today? Are you saying that speaking to God through a rock is valid until I prove it wrong? Isn't that delusional? As for valid techniques to speak to God, I'm at a loss. I don't think it happens and anyone who claims such is probably delusional. They are always claiming experiences where no one else is around. So, I would say there aren't valid techniques, except maybe ordinary means of communication, perhaps. Maybe using EmodE is a valid way for God to speak to man? It seems to be a thing with some.
  20. That happened long long ago, but it didn't work, and for good reason. Christ didn't appear on TV, but he walked the byways of Judea and surrounding areas. He spoke in synagogues, appeared at the temple, visited homes and preached on hillsides. Yet, this wasn't "proof" enough for many, and even for some of his followers, it was insufficient. Not only did Christ appear, he also performed numerous miracles. He healed the sick, cast out devils, turned water to wine, calmed the storm-tossed seas, etc., and fulfilled various messianic prophecies. Yet, most did not believe, and some who did, their faith was weak. Since that didn't work for them, they asked for a sign. And, when that sign was manifest (fittingly celebrated this Easter day), many still didn't believe. Again, rightly so. That is because the only real "proof" of spiritual things is set forth in Mt. 16:17---and this by way of Moroni 10 and Alma 32. . You won't, and really can't believe spiritual things by way of flesh and blood. Faith only comes by means of the Spirit--and this in a way far greater than when, as spirit children of God, we had him always before our eyes. .We can only ultimately believe and understand God by becoming even as He is. This is His plan. Still don't believe? That is to be expected. Thanks, -Wade Englund-
  21. Pesach or Passover this year started on Friday the 19th and ends on Saturday the 27th. I believe it is appropriate to wish folks a happy Passover any time during that week. I may be wrong, but that is my experience.
  22. Perhaps the confusion may be dispelled by understanding that the Church is actually lead by him after whom the Church is named. Thanks, -Wade Englund-
  23. I was pretty sure that is what you meant, wanted to be sure.
  24. There is another answer to this as well- that we each write our own language in dealing with God. Measuring "more than" another is purely subjective, a living image of God that changes as one learns.
  25. I’m not sure I understand your question/point. But, I’ll try. When someone finds something good, hold onto it. If a church helps one get close to god, its hard to say that’s a bad thing! But, I’m personally not willing to place my trust in man. Most LDS would say that this is God’s/Christ’s church, but it’s led by men (it’s a confusing notion to me).
  26. Oh that's a good one. Just stick with that first sentence I quoted. Just the format "No one does x" is a little difficult to prove within your positivistic frame of reference. Where's you evidence that no one in the world does it "today"? Especially with no criteria for knowing if the revelation is from God or not? That's error number one. To make your point, you might want to give a list of valid techniques to speak to God "today" and how or why they have changed and why looking at stones will not be a valid technique. Good luck. Plus 2- IF anyone does it they are deluded. - implies that someone MIGHT do it- which denies that no one actually DOES it. And another one- that was mentioned earlier that due to these reasons Joseph was a "fraud"- and yet if he was deluded he could not BE a fraud because being a fraud requires the intent to deceive- which is not possible because the person is deluded. Self-contradictory. Stick with your first sentence- "I guess I am wasting my time". Finally! Something we can agree about!!
  27. From the mouths of children comes the sounds of blessed Easter hope: Thanks, -Wade Enlgund-
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