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  2. I once knew a member whose wife was involved in their manufacture. He said, "It's a sweatshop. It's a sacred sweatshop, but ..."
  3. Right. The facts that, basically, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints had been disincorporated as an entity, its property had been seized, and its leaders had been hounded into hiding had nothing to do with it. (It is arguable, though, whether other recent changes might have occurred for that reason, so ...)
  4. My reading of that phrase by Phaedrus was that the scenarios were pretend, not the marriages.... That said, I absolutely agree that it's insulting and disrespectful for anyone to demean others' marital or life choices by suggesting that such marriages or families are "pretend" or invalid. I am on record as fully supporting the freedom to marry according to our own personal choices, including supporting the legal validity and the social/spiritual/emotional support of mixed-orientation marriages, regardless of my personal beliefs on the subject. That agreement that it's insulting to call into question the life choices of others is also why there was such a strong outcry when Elder Perry recently called gays' and lesbians' relationships/life choices/families "counterfeit and alternative lifestyles": “We want our voice to be heard against all of the counterfeit and alternative lifestyles that try to replace the family organization that God Himself established. We also want our voice to be heard in sustaining the joy and fulfillment that traditional families bring. From my perspective, the word "counterfeit" is actually worse than "pretend." Speaking from my own actual experience and only for myself (not for anyone else), a so-called "traditional" family marital relationship brought none of the fulfillment or joy that Perry suggests, ;and was instead a source of extreme heartache, pain, and suffering. I believe there is no "one size fits all" family relationship, and we are at our best when we strive to find, uncover, and become the best we can be within the sphere of the measure of our own creation; that is, that which is possible, and that which is not. Hopefully we can move beyond such insulting, disrespectful, and hurtful rhetoric regarding families that are different from our own, regardless of were we fall in our views.
  5. The last Temple Recommend interview I had, which was some time ago, admittedly, actually, it was the opposite: Endowed members should wear the garment during any activity for which it reasonably can be worn. If, in fact, that standard has changed, odd duck that I am, I'm unlikely to alter my personal standard. (Though, in the exceedingly unlikely event that I ever engage in intimacy with someone, while others' mileage may vary, I'm not wearing it for that ...)
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  7. That is the original (and only I have seen besides yahoo, is that a news collector or news source? I think of it like google rather than CNN) one. I should have said "other new sources".
  8. Cognitive dissonance is valuable in our quest for a workable framework for our lives. For many of us, that framework becomes the Gospel. It may not always have been. But as life experience percolates to the surface, some choose to take the Gospel, and table the imperfections until more wisdom is available. Your idea here makes a lot of sense. We should be able to discuss these things without taking offense (or intentionally giving offense.) I believe this cognitive dissonance from Bernard Gui’s thread “Where Will This Lead” pertains to this discussion. (I hope I’m not out of line copying and posting it here): ”...our (Sacrament) speaker gave perhaps the best sermon I have ever heard and felt on repentance. He said at first he worried that his words might not be appropriate, but then he came to the conclusion that what he had to say was what the Lord wanted him to say. He told his story... A life-long member, seminary graduate, returned missionary young man who had made some very poor choices and ended up in many years of inactivity, moral degradation, addiction, depression, homelessness, self-loathing, and despondency. At a point when he was making the decision whether or not to live any longer, he thought of his father. He called him and asked if they could meet. They agreed and at that visit in their home, his father gave him a blessing during which the slate was wiped clean. Embraced by his parents, from that moment he began to take the steps that would restore his spirit, mind, and body through the Atonement of Jesus Christ. Now three years later, he is sealed to a sister from our ward who had earlier suffered at the hands of an abusive ex-husband. They and their little baby boy are now a healthy and whole loving family. God be praised! There were many tearful eyes in the congregation, and some wept openly. We did not know of his journey, only that he had come as a great blessing into the life of our friend. I am sure many were thinking of loved ones they fear have slipped forever away from the path into forbidden areas from which there will be no return. Or perhaps there were those who are having similar feelings of uselessness and despair themselves. As the Spirit bore witness, we were given the hope that “Where will this lead?” does not necessarily have be to tragedy, but rather to deliverance, and redemption, and joy. It is possible for all of us. Thanks to this good brother for sharing his story of repentance, and thanks be to God and our Savior Jesus Christ.” It seems to me that this young man had an experience with truth he tested by the practical consequences of his belief. That is the definition of pragmatic from Merriam- Webster. The speaker came through some secular experiences that revealed which behavior he needed to eliminate to remove the dissonance from his mind and life. Stepping out on that limb of faith, he found a pragmatic Atonement revealed by his secular experience. It appears he has found a way of living now that works for him. Sounds like you have one that works for you also.
  9. By your actions. See Matthew 25:40 “And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.”
  10. How do you teach people about the Savior in a mosque?
  11. I don't know you, so I'm in no position to either like or dislike you. My general inclination is to like people. But you've made it quite obvious in the past that you adore the idea of plural marriage and wish it were currently a commandment.
  12. If you order online, your LDS Account knows that you're endowed.
  13. Tacenda included the link in her original post.
  14. The second conquest of Israel after Jericho. The early scouts said there were few people there, so they convinced Moses to send a small party. However, when they got there about 3000 defenders were there. I believe the scouts were detected, and help was sent for, which indicates the original Ai was indeed small like the scouts indicated. About 70-80 years ago a preeminent archaeologist named a somewhat large site as being Ai. But archaeology has shown that the site was not occupied during the usual archaeological times given for the exodus (1200-1500 BC).
  15. So don't tuck them in. I certainly don't. Have you always tucked your undershirts into your underpants? I think that sounds horrible (and a bit geeky). I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't have any ribbons on my garment tops (or bottoms). I don't think garments have had ribbons since around the 1950s, possibly earlier?
  16. https://fox13now.com/2019/05/17/the-woman-suing-the-lds-church-alleging-rape-at-the-mtc-says-someone-is-trying-to-intimidate-her-into-silence/
  17. It was not the direction I wanted to go. I had a conflict with my ss teacher and came here instead to get clarity. I did not receive any clarity. Which made things clear for me. Then, later, California brought up a question about LGBTQ issues. It is related but certainly politically charged. I gave permission to veer as I am satisfied that there is no answer to my question, which leads me to question a lot of other things... and apparently specifically leaves California to question related to LGBTQ issues .
  18. I don’t believe you need a current recommend to purchase.
  19. When I went to Israel, I was sporting a full dark beard. I think they were profiling me as a potential terrorist, because I was singled out for extra security upon arriving at the airport in Tel Aviv. It was intense and scary. But in spite of the rough beginning, it proved to be one of the best trips I’ve ever taken — amazement, surprise, and wonder at every turn.
  20. No one asks who you are buying garments for, I buy for my mother and myself at the same time with two different sizes. I do not know what the policy is though. As far as I am aware, one is supposed to only stop wearing garments when instructed not to (excommunication and I assume resignation).
  21. I think the church is operating in a very orderly fashion, because we have a prophet to guide us and keep it orderly.
  22. You really don't like me do you? I believe polygamy is an eternal law and principle in temporary restriction. But I also believe it was revoked in the Church by God's prophet by revelation due to desires and agency of the members. As such no, we should not be practicing this eternal law any more than the Children of Israel should have had the higher priesthood law when Moses came down from Sinai.
  23. Sorry, don't believe that. The living prophet is is vital as long as he is following the course God revealed. D&C 3:2 For God doth not walk in crooked paths, neither doth he turn to the right hand nor to the left, neither doth he vary from that which he hath said, therefore his paths are straight, and his course is one eternal round D&C 132:8 Behold, mine house is a house of order, saith the Lord God, and not a house of confusion
  24. Tangential question: If an endowed member wants to wear the garment, but does hold a temple recommend, what does he/she do If a new garment is needed? Can those with temple recommends buy a garment for that individual? Or, must that individual wear the garment beyond their inevitable yellowing?
  25. And now you've pressed JLHPROF's button ...
  26. And now you've pressed JLHPROF's button ...
  27. Nope. The current prophet is more important and vital to us than a past prophet and can make changes as inspired by God that we should follow. If not we would still be practicing polygamy.
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