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  2. Yes, to those questions, although I'm not Meadowchik. But still, there are those in the church that with that authority changed lives, and not for the good. Leaders need to put that authority you say we have, back in our hands. Members need to think for themselves, you can't tell me we didn't get talks that the leaders are paramount in the authority, maybe it's scaling way back now, since they themselves have seen where things got out of hand.
  3. I am a member of record and I believe that most LGBTQ were born that way.
  4. By keys, do you mean authority to perform certain tasks?
  5. I saw this at NPR today. Nice story and a Jewish concert to the church. https://www.npr.org/2019/08/25/753531070/im-converting-how-one-man-s-missionary-trip-reconnected-him-to-his-family-s-past
  6. Abraham had many kids, just two to whom the birthright question applied. And I am not sure what point you are making about Sarah's death. Many husbands aren't able to be with their wives at the time of death.
  7. Pretty interesting actually. I think the leaders drink it, I remember reading that Pres. Monson did, but don't quote me on that. But to me, soda pop is worse than green tea for sure. So it's really all relative.
  8. I was just referring to what verse 57 said. I beheld that the faithful elders of this dispensation, when they depart from mortal life, continue their labors in the preaching of the gospel of repentance and redemption, through the sacrifice of the Only Begotten Son of God, among those who are in darkness and under the bondage of sin in the great world of the spirits of the dead. I didn't see an equivalent verse for elders going into the 'paradise' part.
  9. Do you mean that some members of the LDS Church believe it is in the will of God to be LGBT?
  10. Does it matter what age they were? It sounds like Abraham wanted the birthright to go through Ishmael, not Isaac. Abraham had 2 kids, not 1. Sounds like Abraham was not with Sarah when she died...
  11. I know it is a common practice to blame the members and never ever question the leaders, but this practice often does not reflect reality. For decades and decades PR programs, marketing campaigns, books, magazine articles, conference talks, church websites, and internet material, not to mention the Mo Tab all had and used the name Mormon. This was not something that was "tolerated". It was something that was activity promoted. This all came right from the top. The leaders you adore are the ones responsible for keeping and promoting the name Mormon. It is disingenuous to blame this on the membership. As to your other point. I think you were right the first time. It is Nelson that means business, and this is becoming a costly pet project. I think there is some question as to if this effort sustainable in the long term. After all, this wouldn't be the first time one of Nelson's "revelations" had to be walked back.
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  13. OK, let me get real. Two stories. #1. I was under a great deal of stress leading up to Wendy's and my meeting, and if you can imagine it, we were both lovesick teenagers, as she put it. I was in a considerable disarray about my feelings overshadowing what I took to be my objective intellect (this was about 3 weeks before meeting her -- and you - for the first time). I seriously "needed my brain back" as I put it, and finally, one night as I went to bed I knelt in prayer and poured out my concerns to Father, and asked him to please give me back my brain. I went to sleep with emotional turmoil still twirling around in my head. But in the morning, I woke to find that all that of that was gone! My brain was back, and in place of the turmoil was a certainty that all was proceeding as it should, that there was nothing wrong. That was huge, to have the Lord clear away the jungle so I could see the end from the beginning. #2. A long time ago when I still just a callow youth, I needed to decide upon a particular course of action. I decided to put DC 9:8-9 to the test. And, having considered the matter, I had exactly two choices. Let's call them option A and option B. And I decided upon option B. I was fully convinced this was the correct way to go. Accordingly, I put the matter before the Lord in prayer. In the prayer I explained the situation, and just as I was about to say to the Lord that I had chosen option B, I suddenly couldn't speak. And not only could I not speak, I couldn't even think the words I wanted to say. I struggled to get the words out for a few seconds, but then suddenly realized this was that "stupor of thought." And as soon as I realized this, I was released from "speech lock" I guess I could call it. I thanked the Lord for the advice, and went with option A. Things turned out just fine. I realize that an unbeliever could explain all this away, because it is extremely subjective. It's not like one gets a angel coming down with a stone tablet that you can show to your friends (and they'd probably just assume I made it myself or had it made). But when something like this happens to you, and the experience sets itself upon you, it is hard to deny it. Some people can and will deny it, however -- which is why God doesn't give these things to them.
  14. If you really are seeking understanding, then you ought to demonstrate more seeking, more extensive, comprehensive, and open-ended seeking. Less enthno-centric, presentist, knee-jerk obstructive reading. Reading the Book of Mormon as though no one else was around when they arrived is an ideological reading, not determined by the text, not "straight-forward" and unquestionable, and not consistent with archeology. On the topic of Nephi's neighbors, essential reading at this point is Matt Roper's "Nephi's Neighbors" which was not the first essay on this topic, but his is the best and most comprehensive and remains the gold standard. Ignore it at your peril. https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/msr/vol15/iss2/8/ Among many other things, Roper discusses just why Nephi has Jacob lecture his people on the relevance of "I will lift up my hand to the Gentiles, and set my hand up to the standard of my people; and they shall bring thy sons in their arms, and thy daughters shall be carried on their shoulders" and that "the promises of the Lord are great unto the Gentiles" and "the Gentiles shall be blessed and numbered among the house of Israel" (2 Nephi 10:18" and "I will consecrate this land unto thy seed and them who shall be numbered among thy seed" 2 Nephi 20:19. FWIW Kevin Christensen Canonsburg, PA
  15. Caffeine is not prohibited by the word of wisdom.
  16. What is a testimony of goodness? What has goodness revealed to you? What if goodness IS God? Do we have more reason to listen to good people than bad people? Is being good therefore Authority in it self?
  17. A verse typically neglected in considering the story of Abraham and Isaac. And Abraham said unto his young men, Abide ye here with the ***; and I and the lad will go yonder and worship and come again to you. Gen. 22:5. Nibley pointed out in Improvement Era series that stories of substitute sacrifice run like a red thread throughout Abraham's life, not all of which are included in Genesis. Abraham's father intended to sacrifice him. A substitute was provided. Both the Pseudo Philo and our Book of Abraham tell of Abraham on the altar, and the sacrificing priests themselves becoming the substitute. Sarah was on the lion couch twice, both times, the King and Pharoh being smitten. So given what Abraham had experienced, and given that he said that he and the lad would go and worship and come again, the reason that Abraham had faith is that Abraham's life experience had uniquely prepared him for what was about to happen. FWIW Kevin Christensen Canonsburg, PA
  18. I’ve not been affiliated with the Deseret News for over a year, so I have no current inside information to offer, even if I were inclined to do so. I can share with you what has been discernible by any alert outside observer over the past 10 years or so, which is this: The Deseret News thus far has weathered the disruption and gradual demise of the newspaper industry by streamlining its operations and consolidating them with other Church-owned media such as KSL-TV and Radio and to some extent Deseret Book. It is confronting the future by transitioning away from a print to a digital product through a website and mobile app administered by a company created for that purpose called Deseret Digital Media. Meanwhile, it has endeavored to keep its print product afloat by expanding its reach through a national edition. And on that point, I will point out that notwithstanding your comments, it is not necessary in this day and age to be a Utah resident to be acquainted with the Deseret News, this because of both the online presence and the national print edition. How is the newspaper faring under the current business model? Again I’m not in a position to say. I do wonder how the demise of the JOA (if that should happen next year) would impact each newspaper.
  19. I wish I had been there but I'm glad I wasn't. I think I would have offered to slap the phone out of his hand if he didn't shut the heck up, or take it outside. Being under stress can sometimes make people do things they wouldn't ordinarily do. On the other hand, it might have been a perfect opportunity to take out my bluetooth speaker and play one of my favorite tunes at full volume (oh, and yes, sing along with them and play air guitar while doing it). Until he finally shut up. That would have made me feel so much better while waiting for the procedure!
  20. If the Trib died, I, who have never read it or even had a copy in my hands, would not mourn. How healthy is the Deseret News, by the way? I don't think I've ever had a copy of it in my hands either, but all of this is explainable by saying that I've lived in Utah a total of five months in my life, and two of those months were at the Language Training Mission in Provo (like the MTC, but for non-English speaking missions only)..
  21. I haven't posted anything in the News section for a long, long time, mainly because when I post a thing, I want it to be prominent. Not much traffic in the News section. I know it's possible that my post will be moved to the News section, but even if that happens, at least there will be a marker in the General Discussions forum.
  22. There is a component to the Word of Wisdom as taught today that is not contained within the wording of the revelation (D&C 89) itself. That component is a test of commitment and obedience to the word of God demonstrated through behavior, not unlike the dietary laws of ancient Israel. I believe this component is just as much revelation as the wording in Section 89.
  23. Maybe in the eyes of heaven, it is good that we be known to the world as followers of Christ as distinct from adherents to some sort of cultural ethnicity, similar to the Jews whose Jewishness does not necessarily imply religious commitment. Just thinking out loud here.
  24. I'm glad to encounter someone else who uses a Cocomotion machine. I love ours. Some years ago, we bought two or three extras to put in storage against the time when they stopped manufacturing them. I'm glad now that we did so.
  25. For what it's worth, the vending machines in the workers' break room at the temple where I serve do not offer beverages that contain caffeine. They don't even have no-caffeine Coke. And that's fine with me. 😉
  26. I thought the Trib's offensiveness toward the Church and its members might lessen a bit when the newspaper came into the hands of the Huntsman family, but apparently, Paul Huntsman has assiduously maintained a hands-off attitude regarding editorial content. Meanwhile, under his watch, the newspaper is still a sinking ship -- two or three mass layoffs to date -- despite lucrative subsidies from his personal fortune. Continuing to cater to the local niche market that hates the Church hasn't helped shore it up. Neither has putting its online content behind a pay wall. Its latest desperation move is to file to become a (501) (c) (3) enterprise -- in other words, a charity existing on philanthropic support with tax-deductible donations. And next year, the joint operating agreement contract with the Deseret News is up for re-negotiation/renewal. Will it be the end of this symbiotic relationship between the two fiercely competitive news organizations? JOAs around the country have been dying off faster than newspapers themselves and will soon be extinct, I believe. "Twill be interesting to see what happens.
  27. It's really easy to miss answers to our prayers sometimes. Some are very obvious, but sometimes I think it's a matter of optimism and faith. I was terrified of a procedure I was having this week and had not gone under general anesthesia in decades - not since I became a mom. I was really worried about complications. We got to the hospital and when we sat down in the waiting room, I was thinking I would try to meditate and pray silently, but this rude guy got on his phone and talked loudly for 20 minutes or so, having a full on argument with the person. I hoped he would be quiet soon, but he wouldn't stop, so I tried to pray for comfort anyway. I couldn't even hear myself think and felt really frustrated, but then I started to find the situation comical, started documenting the conversation for friends, and suddenly realized I felt better. I wasn't scared anymore and I felt confirmation that I was going to be OK. I shared this story and a unbeliever told me my view was silly - that God didn't have anything to do with it. It's all how you look at it. I received help and Heavenly Father knew how to comfort me. The funniest part was when the guy acknowledged he was in a waiting room, stayed on the phone anyway, mentioned again that he was in a waiting room, and told the person if people were paying attention to him, then they were being inappropriate. 😂He was yelling! How does God answer your prayers?
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